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Edmbueller
Posted on Tuesday, June 13, 2006 - 10:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Had a 2004 XB12S, crashed and wrote it off I have two Choices:

a) 2005 CityX w/ 4000Kms stock (I have a 12 race can and filter would just need race ECM and TPS reset. If I went this route I would prob go with a Drummer and I have the select seat / other various parts from my "old" bike.$9300CDN

b) 2004 XB12R w/ 3000Kms - Race Kit just installed with 20Kms put on since kit and TPS reset. This route would mean I have to get a new seat and sell my select seat and other Lightning Specific parts...

Riding type - 70% city hooliganism, 10% trackdays, 10% long touring, 10% secondary highway runs...

If I go with "a" will I miss the power that I had with the 12?

If I get the Firebolt, is the seating position very uncomfortable on long rides?

Wife has her own bike so solo riding only...

ALL INPUT WELCOME!
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Bake
Posted on Tuesday, June 13, 2006 - 10:25 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I'm partial to the R's. I am looking to buy some 04 pulleys, are the ones from your writeoff for sale?
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Hogs
Posted on Tuesday, June 13, 2006 - 10:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Hey Edmbueller,
Well saying this, " Riding type - 70% city hooliganism, 10% trackdays, 10% long touring, 10% secondary highway runs... "

Most of your riding in and around town and only 10 percent on the twisties??
No real long hauling as I see either, Either choice is a good one, I have both as well, As far as the R seat , no plms. for you at all there, IF you were doing long hauls then I wd. question it, Personaly I try to stay off them Highways and take all the secondary runs.. But my R I Dig it and my arse is 50 years plus LoL...
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Edmbueller
Posted on Tuesday, June 13, 2006 - 10:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Well I make 2 or 3 long hauls per year, for example I am heading on a 3000km trek through the mountains first week in July..will I be ok on the 'bolt? I have done a few trips like this on the Lightning and had no problems at all
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Edmbueller
Posted on Tuesday, June 13, 2006 - 10:34 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

also forgot to mention the Firebolt is $10,000CDN
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Hogs
Posted on Tuesday, June 13, 2006 - 10:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

10,000 seems abit high , But then theres that old thing called Supply and demand,Good if ya could wait a month or two and get yourself a new 2007 model...

You can get a thicker seat for the Bolt, Adds more comfort I guess, But I sure don`t like it for around town etc.etc...
I sent ya a email or two did you get your mail??
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Edmbueller
Posted on Tuesday, June 13, 2006 - 10:48 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

2007 models will be in the 15,000 range after freight, PDI, tax...outta my range, only getting between 10,000 and 10,500 for my bike
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Kdan
Posted on Tuesday, June 13, 2006 - 10:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I vote for the Cityx, but then, I'm partial to the S. Way more fun for city Hooliganism IMO.
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Edmbueller
Posted on Tuesday, June 13, 2006 - 10:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Kdan, could you give me some reasons why?
Have you ridden a 12R?
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Bigeasy
Posted on Tuesday, June 13, 2006 - 11:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

look at the thread on the quick board for "Buell sale in Appleton". You will see 06 buells for 10000 to 11000. Plus Dave is a great guy to deal with.

Art
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Edmbueller
Posted on Tuesday, June 13, 2006 - 11:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Big - I am in Canada and he can not sell me a new bike or else trust me - fly and ride would be my deal lol
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Bake
Posted on Tuesday, June 13, 2006 - 11:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Gimme a ping before going through Revelstoke, I am usually available to ride any day, and we got tons of great rideing!
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Edmbueller
Posted on Tuesday, June 13, 2006 - 11:25 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Bake - I will be riding to Fairmont July 2nd and staying there from the 2nd to the 9th....how far is Revelstoke from Fairmont?
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Kootenay
Posted on Wednesday, June 14, 2006 - 12:13 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Because so much of your riding is gonna be in town "hooliganism," and so little canyon strafing, I'd suggest the CityX. I have an XB9R, rode the 12 and it's great but I bought the 9 and I love it. It'll rev a bit more than the 12, and while it won't have the stump-pulling torque of the 12 it gets around quite nicely, thank you!

The Firebolt riding position is not as well suited to in-town riding, IMO. Steering feels heavier and the bike feels a bit less nimble in traffic...it's natural environment is backroads and canyons. If I lived in Edmonton and had your choice to make, I'd get the CityX (or I'd move here and bring the R!).
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Edmbueller
Posted on Wednesday, June 14, 2006 - 12:48 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

thank Kootenay, this is the kind of "realworld" feedback I am looking for, keep it coming guys!!
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Pwnzor
Posted on Wednesday, June 14, 2006 - 02:02 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

yeah it sounds like the city x will be the bike for you in this instance. Ive done some long trips on my R and I've wished for a more upright position.

If you do get the R, get a bar-end cruise control and use it on long trips so you can rest your right arm alternately with your left.
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Vonsliek
Posted on Wednesday, June 14, 2006 - 02:37 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

xb12r .. rode from calgary to kelowna a coupe of times .. oh man .. u get real jealous of the *cruiser* guys in their relative comfort .. infact apehangers & a rigid wld be almost better .. fortunately the tank range is good for abt max 150kms in canada - alberta/bc at least.

my arse hurt & arms cramped & i nearly went thru a concrete barrier at 140kmh when hwy turned but arms were stiff from wind & this was abt 5 hrs into it .. was so happy to make it to ktown ..

i love my racekitted xb12r .. my buddy has a 06 xb12s & i rode it once .. its like a nitro-powered vespa compared to the relatively aggressive seating on the *r* ..

i wldnt be able to get along w/ an *s* model .. rather the occasional discomfort of the firebolt over the sit-up & stick a safety flag on yer head sensibilty of the lightning.

but thats me & i am extreme.

never ridden a *9* but i think i'd like the revs .. as i ride to the limiter most of the time.

on long hauls tho, i shortshift & eitehr lay on the airbox or sit up, but the windblast onthe *r* will likely make yer neck stiff & annoy u .. if u get one, investigate a zero gravity touring screen .. the buell race bikes use them a lot.

paul.
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Kdan
Posted on Wednesday, June 14, 2006 - 02:45 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

EdmBueller - I've demo'd 12r's, but not long term, the 9S sits high and straight and gives me a better command view of cages and possible contention. Also with a Motard background, the 9S feels more comfortable to me. The R's are too low and lacks a feeling of confidence in traffic, where I do the majority of my riding. Now, a 12S, I could do too!
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Bake
Posted on Wednesday, June 14, 2006 - 09:46 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Probably 5 hrs, you will be in a great rideing area. Are you going to a motorcycle related event there, I can't remember when their antique ralley is.
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99buellx1
Posted on Wednesday, June 14, 2006 - 09:51 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I have ridden both quite alot.
I personally prefer the feel of the 9 motor. It is a bit smoother, and has a very predictable feel. And if you add the Micron to the mix, it makes real good power.
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Edmbueller
Posted on Wednesday, June 14, 2006 - 10:08 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Bake: I am just going on a vacation with the folks (they have a timeshare in Fairmont)
I would welcome some routes in that area..could always make a little trip to Golden one of the days and meet you there for lunch or something!

99buellx1: I would be able to afford the micron, however I understand it is a 5 hour job to install. I do not have those kinds of mechanical skills and would NEVER let the dealership here touch my bike to that extent.
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Flick
Posted on Wednesday, June 14, 2006 - 03:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Wow, someone else from Edmonton on this board...cool. I have a 9S and wouldn't trade it for anything! I have ridden the R and find the footpegs too high (and I am only 5'7"!). I have over 37,000kms (not miles) so far...lots of trips to BC (Nakusp/New Denver/Cherryville, Kaslo, Creston, etc.)and I don't get too fatigued on the S. I suspect the R would be a painful experience for touring. I have taken the S on track days a few times now, and it works very well. Personally, I would go for the comfort factor as the engines are the same (S & R), so the performance is identical. I commute most days on mine and like the flickability factor (pun intended).
Torque is substantially greater on the 12, but you rev a little higher on the 9, which I prefer.
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99buellx1
Posted on Wednesday, June 14, 2006 - 03:25 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

5 hour install!!!

Not even close. I could probably do it in two, and that's me in my garage.
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Edmbueller
Posted on Wednesday, June 14, 2006 - 03:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Flick: We have met! Black XB12S (Line-X) at Stratotech raceway....crashed and have the two options above for replacement..yeah only 2 options SOMETIMES I hate living in Canada lol...

99buellx1: Thanks that puts my mind a little more at ease about getting the CityX.....
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Bake
Posted on Wednesday, June 14, 2006 - 09:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I like my R for touring, rode for 8 consecutive days on last years tour, lots of 1000k days. Gonna do it again this year only a few less miles.
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Don668
Posted on Thursday, June 15, 2006 - 12:33 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

EdmBueller: I live in Calgary (for now, moving to Ontario soon) and have an 06 SX and i wouldnt trade it up. Great for city commutes, fine on the blasts out to Banff. Wind gets to be a little much at 180km.
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Edmbueller
Posted on Thursday, June 15, 2006 - 12:50 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Don: thx for the info! I demo'd the '06 CityX and the new clutch/Tranny is AWESOME, however I can not justify the $3500 difference between either of the used bikes I listed above..Calgary HD has a new '06 CityX for $11500 plus freight tax PDI - $13,000 out the door....just too much compared..
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Ulendo
Posted on Saturday, June 17, 2006 - 06:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Edmbueller
I'm in kelowna, and ride an 06 CityX - for the central BC area, the bike absolutely rocks. I run with a couple of guys on crotch rockets ( GSXR650, and a Kawi ZX7)and they always complain on the local roads 'cause I can SEE so much more. if you run out this way, keep in mind that blind corners, loose gravel, and old farts parked in the middle of the road are status quo( Usually parked in the middle of the road on the back side of a blind corner filled with gravel )Not sure just how low the firebolt sits you compared to those bikes, but it might be worth keeping in mind. I DO find the rpm range of the '9' well suited to BC riding, and not having to shift in the corners can be a real bonus.

Vonsliek - you must mash the throttle pretty hard, 'cause I'm usually pushing 275-300km before the fuel light comes on, and I don't ride THAT gently! ( or is the '9' THAT much thriftier to ride?)
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