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Brineusaf
Posted on Sunday, May 14, 2006 - 04:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

seems to be not something we have an abundance of. I was looking to buy a Gorilla Alarm system, and before doing so was wondering if anyone else has one and where they mounted it.

I searched the KV and only came up with a short discussion on it.

Was thinking of purchasing the screen for the triangular area below the seat and then fab'ing up the alarm in there somehow, but I couldn't find the dimensions of the unit. Any help would be appreciated.
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Ulendo
Posted on Sunday, May 14, 2006 - 05:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

LOL - I'm in the same boat.

FWIW, you might want to also look at the Scorpio, Sr-i500 series. a bit more $$$, but they use a 2 way paging system, plus have proximity alarm, and anti-hijack features. ( anti hijack also incorporates engine disable into the main alarm)

I have no affiliation, but here's a link
http://www.scorpioalarms.com/sr-i500.aspx
(anyone HAVE a scorpio care to comment on them? I havent had a whole lot of luck finding them on Buells - lots on tourers though)
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Brineusaf
Posted on Sunday, May 14, 2006 - 07:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Right, I was considering them just because of the proximity alarm. I guess we'll see when I make my decision.
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Ulendo
Posted on Sunday, May 14, 2006 - 07:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

My thought was that since I plan on using the Buell 'semi-hard' luggage as my in town setup, a proximity alarm, and maybe some of the travel-luggage style locks through the zipper tabs should be enough to deter opportunistic thieves. I've got a 'club' brand through-the-wheel lock, and I'm also getting the city screen 1/2 cover to use if I'm kicking around town as a visual deterrent ( and so I dont burn my heini - a wee bit sunny during our Okanagen summers) Paranoid, maybe, but I LIKE this bike, and plan on keeping it.

nothings going to deter someone who's a pro, and wants your specific bike...but realistically, how often does that happen, outside of Nicholas Cage in the movies?
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Rfp69
Posted on Sunday, May 14, 2006 - 10:05 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Been running the Scorpio SRi 500 for a couple years now. Great unit. This was the ONLY place I could put it on my XBS.


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Ulendo
Posted on Sunday, May 14, 2006 - 11:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

rfp69 - that looks like just the main module for the scorpio - are you running the proximity alarm, and anti-hijack at all? ( if so, where did you hide those 2 modules?)

also - I've just been reading a couple of guys complaining about the range on the 2 way remote ( saying its only 1/2, or 1/4 the distance claimed) in a building / city environment with interference I can understand the range being reduced, but is it a significant problem, or just a couple of isolated cases?

thanx
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Natexlh1000
Posted on Monday, May 15, 2006 - 06:43 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I read an article where a guy made a simple alarm with a door announcer chime.
He rigged it so that the battery-powered sensor was triggered if the bike is lifted from its kickstand with a crude tiltswitch.
He hid it in a topcase and would put the chime in his hotel room.
Not bad for under $50.
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Rfp69
Posted on Monday, May 15, 2006 - 10:34 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Yes, you can use a mercury switch from an old room thermostat as a "tip switch" and wire it direct from your battery to your horn, with a hidden "on/off" switch.
With the Scorpio, I only use the single module. I find it works fine, with the combination of alarm and transmitting device. The alarm deters any on the scene tampering and the transmitter has always alerted me. Usually only my own friends fooling around with me though.
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Midknyte
Posted on Monday, May 15, 2006 - 12:48 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I read an article where a guy made a simple alarm with a door announcer chime.

damned ingenious. thanks for sharing.
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Brineusaf
Posted on Monday, May 15, 2006 - 12:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

what about removing the panel above the rear tire. Mounting the Alarm module on the piece, cutting a hole for the alarm to speak out of, and then remounting? It would look clean (I think) and it would be virtually out of sight. Not sure how hard it would be to run wires though.

What about a factory connector, I didn't see one on their site, do they offer one for the Buells?
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Brineusaf
Posted on Monday, May 15, 2006 - 01:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

is the 500 model really worth the extra 100+ $ ? I'm looking for a good alarm, but granted I don't want to spend alot of cash.
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Ulendo
Posted on Monday, May 15, 2006 - 03:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Brineusaf - I plan on running with the luggage on most of the time. for me, the proximity alarm means that the luggage will also be covered. without the proximity system, its entirely possible for a thief to creep up, and slice/open the luggage without triggering the main alarm.

$500 (canadian) was the quote I got locally. if you go to the factory website, its about $360 US + shipping for the whole alarm. also, I've emailed them, and one of the Harley harness' ( Gen 1 harness) is applicable to the XB series buells - makes it a plug in solution, with no mucking around, looking for specific wires.

not sure which panel 'above the rear tire' yo were talking about. the fender / mudflap is a pretty slim piece, and the alarm would get hammered. the 'box' under the seat is already full on the cityX - not sure if the 'S' is the same, or not.
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Brineusaf
Posted on Monday, May 15, 2006 - 03:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Stole this from the pic board for a reference, this is not my bike



That was the plastic panel I was speaking of. Refer to the red circle-

I know what you mean as I too leave the luggage on, but from what I understand the proximity alarm is able to be attached to the 300 model as well. I don't see why it wouldn't be possible to fabricate it to the plastic panel,as long as you placed a hole in it to allow the alarm to heard as intended.
Thanks for informing me of the wireharness plug in, took care of that question.
I think I am going to get the 300 model, with the proximity option, with the factory harness plug-in, and examine closely for a good solid area to mount it.

If you do order it and install it, post some pics on here so I can see it.
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Buellisti
Posted on Monday, May 15, 2006 - 06:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Bad spot. Way too much heat in that area. I cooked my first alarm inside of a year and it was mounted in nearly the same spot.
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Rfp69
Posted on Monday, May 15, 2006 - 07:08 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

If you're talking about "cutting a hole for it to speak out of", you're going to be filling it with rain & road grime in that location also.
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Kowpow225
Posted on Monday, May 15, 2006 - 07:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Here's my thread from a while back.
http://www.badweatherbikers.com/buell/messages/32777/102462.html
The alarm's holding up fine and since it sits off to the side of the tires crap flinging plane, it stays very clean.

(Message edited by kowpow225 on May 15, 2006)
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Ulendo
Posted on Monday, May 15, 2006 - 07:48 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Buellisti - why 'way too much' heat? the ECM is located on the inside of that panel. worst case, it might involve adding an extra bax/cover on the underside to hold the alarm...
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Brineusaf
Posted on Monday, May 15, 2006 - 09:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

What I meant by cutting a hole wasn't just making a hole in the plastic, that would be way too simple; instead what I was implying, but didn't state, was more of a "hood-scoop" type thing. Which would prevent water/dirt/mud/sludge/ect ect from entering, yet would allow the alarm to be heard better than if it were without an opening.
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Brineusaf
Posted on Monday, May 15, 2006 - 09:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Kowpow- that is a splendid placement, might have to borrow it. I originally wanted a gorilla alarm, nice to actually see how large one is.
Was is difficult to wire up?
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Buellisti
Posted on Monday, May 15, 2006 - 11:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I have an R and that area is an oven, especially when the fan kicks in. It may also have to do with climate. Summer temps in my area break into the 110+ range often and air temps on the blacktop can be much higher.

Doesn't the S mount the ECM, fuses, and relays on some sort of backing or is everything just attached to the inner fender? Just curious.
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Ulendo
Posted on Monday, May 15, 2006 - 11:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

the ECU is on stems, but AFAIK, there's no heat shield, or anything of that nature. I'll add that the remote reservoir for the rear shock is also in that space - and that will give off heat into the enclosed area.

its packed in so tight that even the small alarm modules wont fit in there...
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Brineusaf
Posted on Monday, May 15, 2006 - 11:57 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Alright, alright... I'll disassemble it myself so I can make the call.
I like where he put his gorilla alarm.
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Bonjoxb12s
Posted on Tuesday, May 16, 2006 - 12:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

It would be nice if the Buell team would make a plug and play module for us.....
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Rhun
Posted on Tuesday, May 16, 2006 - 03:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Wow this is really timely as I was in the process of installing the alarm I bought. All the discussion really saved me some time. Thanks!!!
I just got an alarm off of ebay around $60 with two remote pagers. Has remote start engine cut off etc. All I really wanted was the sensor alarm and remote so I didn't use the relay block. ON my SX everything fit nicely under the air cover where the muffler actuator goes if you have a 12.
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Brineusaf
Posted on Tuesday, May 16, 2006 - 03:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Some pics Rhun?
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Brineusaf
Posted on Tuesday, May 16, 2006 - 05:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

KowPow got pictures from further away?
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Kowpow225
Posted on Tuesday, May 16, 2006 - 09:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Brine,
The wiring on a gorilla alarm is VERY simple. Two leads direct to the battery, and then just mounting the supplied tilt switch. I can post some more pics tomorrow for ya with better explanations.
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