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Sgthigg
Posted on Monday, May 08, 2006 - 01:17 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The moon landing was staged in hollywood.
We never went back???Why?

I saw the pics of the landing craft. the bottoms of the landing gear was absolutey spotless...
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Sik_s
Posted on Monday, May 08, 2006 - 02:20 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I believe that we went back to the moon in Airplane 2 and Moonraker. It just wasn't the same as the first time.
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Rocketman
Posted on Monday, May 08, 2006 - 05:02 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I didn't say I would never beleive it. I just said that no one has proven it to me yet. Just because someone said it on the internet does not make it so.

Film footage showed them leaving via some US airport. I think the footage is on the Moore film too.......unless of course, it was all staged??



You guys forgot the London Bus found on Mars.

Rocket
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Kdan
Posted on Monday, May 08, 2006 - 05:13 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Stretchman, Indy_Bueller, Sgthigg, Rocketman...You guys don't believe in god either, huh?

There, I made it go there! I knew I could!

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Eexb
Posted on Monday, May 08, 2006 - 08:21 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

"I think the footage is on the Moore film too".

No need for further discussion - if any source regarding the war, oil or politics is PURE BS, it was that movie.

Using that looney's piece of crap as a reference exhibits "kool aid drinking" at it's finest.
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Seanp
Posted on Monday, May 08, 2006 - 09:05 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Conspiracy theorists are just folks who are looking for an easy explanation, because they can't comprehend that there are purely evil people in the world, and they want to think that there is some sort of master manipulation going on behind the scenes.

If any of you think that it was not a jet which hit the Pentagon, I'd like you to talk with one of my former battalion commanders who worked there, and crawled through part of the fuselage on her way out of the burning building.

I'd also like you crackpots to tell me what the government did with an entire plane full of people. Did they kill them all and bury them in a field? Yeah, ok. Crackheads.

Anyway, back on topic:

As far as gas prices go, it's this thing called "capitalism". It's a system based on supply and demand.

Once gas reaches a certain price, then people won't be willing to pay as much for it. Folks will start to walk to work, or take mass transit, or not drive to movie theaters, restaurants, etc. As people use less and less gas, the price will start to come down, and then people will start to use more gas again, and the price will go up.

I personally believe that this is a temporary thing. The price of gas has gone up before. It will go down again. It will continue to fluctuate, with some spikes here and there, for as long as it remains an important commodity.

Get used to it.
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Ratyson
Posted on Monday, May 08, 2006 - 09:22 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I saw the pics of the landing craft. the bottoms of the landing gear was absolutey spotless...

Um... you do realise that the part of the lander that actually made contact with the surface is STILL on the moon, don't you?


Sounds like a few folks really got taken by Michael Moore...}
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Road_thing
Posted on Monday, May 08, 2006 - 10:00 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

You know, I considering "custodianizing" this thread, but it's kind of entertaining...

So carry on, avoiding (as usual) religion, politics and disgusting pornographic images.

rt
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Brucelee
Posted on Monday, May 08, 2006 - 10:08 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Supply and demand, supply and demand.

How much SHOULD gas cost?

How do you know this???

Supply and demand!
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Seanp
Posted on Monday, May 08, 2006 - 10:08 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

How about totally non-disgusting pornographic images?
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Midknyte
Posted on Monday, May 08, 2006 - 10:54 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Something that has always bugged me is the 40 or so (please correct me if that number is wrong) different formulations that our gas has to be refined/prepped to for sale in different regions of the US.

I can't help but believe that if that number could be reduced, it would reduce a whole lot of overhead. Maybe the processes are not that complicated...

Edumacate me?
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Court
Posted on Monday, May 08, 2006 - 11:11 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I once ate from a dumpster that was titled in the name of aliens who conspired to artifically inflate the price of self igniting charcoal....or maybe they were self-igniting aliens...they nueralized me so it's tough to recall.
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Stretchman
Posted on Monday, May 08, 2006 - 12:48 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I hate when that happens.
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Sgthigg
Posted on Monday, May 08, 2006 - 01:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Kdan,
wow

I beleive in God, landing on the moon has nothing to do with someone personal relationshhip with Jesus Christ.
You didnt know that?

"Um... you do realise that the part of the lander that actually made contact with the surface is STILL on the moon, don't you?"

Whats that got to do with there being no dust or sediment blown on to them when they landed??? I i supposed they polished them for the photo shoot...lol

Sounds like a few folks really got taken by Michael Moore...}"

Hell no dude ...I own farenhype 911(not farenheight911)...ever seen that one? I totally agree with it.

You all have misconstruded of who i am. It can happen when we try to judge how someone is by electronis medium.
If you all knew me in person it would be otherwise..Its ok no hard feelings.
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Blake
Posted on Monday, May 08, 2006 - 01:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Were any of the Apollo moon mission astronauts gay?
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Sgthigg
Posted on Monday, May 08, 2006 - 02:08 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Dude you didnt hear about that one?
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Ponytail
Posted on Monday, May 08, 2006 - 02:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I have nothing to add other than I'm laughing my azz off as I read thru this.

Carry on.
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Ratyson
Posted on Monday, May 08, 2006 - 02:54 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Sgthigg,
I gotcha, I thought you were talking about what came BACK from the lunar landing.

Farenhype 911?? I have not heard of that, I may have to check that out.
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Rocketman
Posted on Monday, May 08, 2006 - 03:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Moore's film does have a lot of fact based information, which is public knowledge if one cares to look. How you string the facts together is whether you see it as a conspiracy or not.

FACTS ARE STILL FACTS.

What's refreshing is so many American's support Moore's efforts to show a corrupt government. The Florida vote counting fiasco is proof enough of that corruption. It's sad that there are those in their millions that will turn a blind eye. For what? Democracy and Bush high fuel prices?

Over and out. Beam me up Tony!

Rocket
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Stretchman
Posted on Monday, May 08, 2006 - 03:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Were any of the Apollo moon mission astronauts gay?

Dude, they all were. Spending time together in the cockpit. Practicing orbits and reentry. Grabbing the joystick. Na ass a! Eating out of tubes. Scrubbing the mission for broken tiles. And those long cylindrical things, probing deep into space. Geez. Teach your monkey to fly boy.

Stretch
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Stealthxb
Posted on Monday, May 08, 2006 - 03:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

From townhall.com

The big point here is that free markets work. Rising prices from the global boom will lead to more conservation, less consumption, and more production, but only so long as government stays out of the way. Instead of blaming ExxonMobil for high gas prices, irate motorists and voters should blame Congress for mandating, regulating, and taxing against energy.

From Boortz

The oil company profits are not obscene. As of September of last year the total take for local, state and federal governments for each gallon of gas sold was 46 cents. In New York that figure is 63 cents. At the same time gasoline retailers were making about 12 cents on the sale of a gallon of gas. Right now the government take is approaching an average of 50 cents a gallon. Retailers are making about 14 cents. so ... who is making the obscene profit? The local gasoline retailer invests in the community, buys a plot of ground, builds a gas station, hires the employees, pays the local taxes, deals with the local regulatory agencies, and makes a big screaming 14 cents on each gallon sold. Meanwhile, the government steps in without having invested one dime in that facility and takes about 50 cents per gallon. Some obscene profits, right?

As for profit margins ... the amount of money earned for each dollar of sales ... oil companies are nowhere near the top of the list. In 2005 pharmaceutical companies made about 17.6 cents for every dollar of revenue. That, for those of you educated in government schools, that works out to a 17.6% profit margin for the drug makers. How about your local bank? They made about 19.1 cents for every dollar of revenue. Almost a 20% profit! Not too shabby. And what about your household goods and cosmetics? Those companies earned 11 cents on the dollar. A lot of competition there. Now, the oil companies. What did they make? In 2005 the average was 8.5 cents per dollar of revenue. That works out to an 8.5% profit margin.
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Sgthigg
Posted on Monday, May 08, 2006 - 04:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Ratyson if you found farenhieght 911 apolling. Farenhype911 is worth the money to buy it. Im warning you now you will be very informed and pissed off by the end of it.
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Buellisti
Posted on Tuesday, May 09, 2006 - 12:32 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

As a former manager of an independent gasoline retailer, I would have loved to make 12 cents a gallon. Retailers generally make a penny or two and rely on the extras they sell like Beer and Snickers bars to make a profit. A twenty dollar gas run requires the sale of 2000 gallons to make up for the loss.

The oil companies are making a pretty obscene profit due to market speculation. Many business are happy to make a 10% profit, but more than 200% is crazy. That's just the local independent refinery, Exxon has done even better. Oil companies acquire the raw material from the ground or they are partners with the companies that do, they refine it, they market it, they wholesale it, they transport it, and in many cases they sell it directly to the end consumer. What other industry has such control of the entire supply chain?

Of course our real gripe isn't the price, but that few if any of us on the list hold stock in and receive dividends from big oil.
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Mikej
Posted on Tuesday, May 09, 2006 - 09:14 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

A local discount gas station near me has the following printed on their pay-at-the-pump receipts:

quote:

Please come in
and buy something
or we'll go broke.


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Skyguy
Posted on Tuesday, May 09, 2006 - 11:43 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The gas prices are manipulated. Plain and simple. This is in part due to the speculators. In part due to greed.

How can Hugo Chavez sell gasoline to his citizens for under 40 cents a gallon? My opinion is becasue he is not trying to get rich off his citizens. The price of Gas would not upset me if this country had a solid public transportation system. Gasoliine is not a luxury in this country, it is a necessity.

Just like speeding tickets; We live in a country that is squeezing us dry.

I hate our currrent administration! And look for anything I can use in my arguments against them. They are theives and crooks.

If you think 911 was a conspiracy perpatrated by our goverment you are just nuts. I have done a ton of research regarding 911 and have come up with my own theory. It goes like this.

Evil people hijacked some planes and flew them into the WTC. I think the Administration knew something like that was coming down the pipe. I think they wanted something like that to happen so that "The Agenda" could be put into motion.

I think that they had intel about when it was going to happen but that they did not have the targets right. IMHO they thought the planes were going to go for the White House and the Pentagon. To many Friends of the Administration died in those towers to believe they knew that the WTC was the target.

I suspect our goverment of many evil doings . Intentionaly killing thousands of citizens is not on that list.
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Skyguy
Posted on Tuesday, May 09, 2006 - 11:43 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Damm I need to learn to spell.
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Indy_bueller
Posted on Tuesday, May 09, 2006 - 12:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

What's refreshing is so many American's support Moore's efforts to show a corrupt government. The Florida vote counting fiasco is proof enough of that corruption. It's sad that there are those in their millions that will turn a blind eye. For what? Democracy and Bush high fuel prices?

How is the Florida vote fiasco proof of anything other than there are people who can be easily outsmarted by a piece of paper and a hole punch? Besides, in order for the Florida vote scandal to be proof of government corruption, you have to first prove that the vote was actually in error in the first place. Don't cite Michael Moore because he is NOT impartial. The real thing that the Florida vote scandal is proof of is that our Constitution and our system of government WORKS. We were able to resolve the issue without it denegrating into violent civil uprising, martial law, etc.


(Message edited by indy_bueller on May 09, 2006)
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Mikej
Posted on Tuesday, May 09, 2006 - 12:57 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Gasoline is not a necessity.



As to conspiracies, someone once said don't look at the current administration to blame, look instead at the previous one(s) who could have got out of the way just in time by design or otherwise to avoid direct blame themselves.

As a test of this, go into some dive bar and look for someone standing around with a handfull of peanuts. Stand behind that person and throw a peanut at someone's head or flip one into someone's drink then duck quietly out of sight. What do you think will happen, who will get the blame assuming nobody saw you do it. Politics and war are sometimes like that, and it gets real muddy real fast trying to find who really is to blame. Want to mess up an opponent with a lot of oil stock? Mess up the gas supply and price structure and who do you think people will point their fingers at?

For myself I'm shopping for a sailboat, maybe I'll just sail away someday.

This ends my political dialog for the week.

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Ryker77
Posted on Tuesday, May 09, 2006 - 01:48 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Taxes

States charge fuel taxes either based on the gallon sold or a % of the cost for that gallon of fuel.

For those who live in the %tax state. The state stands to PROFIT more and more as the price increases.

For those who live in states and all other states. It benifits the states income / tax revenue if people drive more, drive larger cars, and USE MORE FUEL.

Some states are even thinking about taxing hybrids and eco-smart cars because they(big brother) doesn't get enough revenue from the high MPG cars.

1980 average MPG was 24... Nearly 30 years later that has DECREASED to 20mpg average.

Both sides of the political parties have there hands in oil companies pockets. We the people need to STOP REELECTING any career politcian. The longer they are in office the more corrupt they become. We also need to look at the other politcal parites to further disrupt to system were BOTH sides of the politcal parties win and we the American people LOOSE.
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Indy_bueller
Posted on Tuesday, May 09, 2006 - 01:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

HEAR HEAR!!! Riker77 for President!
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