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Fravel
Posted on Monday, February 20, 2006 - 10:42 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

What are your opinions of the Pit Bull Rear Stands for XB's? Are they worth paying $129 for? Do people generally order from American Sportbike or straight through Pit Bull. I am a little confused with the stands on American Sportbike, what part number do I need? I've been looking at getting one for awhile and am itching to spend some money that I shouldn't. It's just another thing on the "To Get List"
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Cataract2
Posted on Monday, February 20, 2006 - 11:22 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I have the rear stand. Worth every penny in my book. Very well built.
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Daves
Posted on Monday, February 20, 2006 - 11:34 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I sell them for 116.10
I have them in stock
I'll be back tomorrow if you'd like to call and order one. 1-866-757-1651 ask for Dave in the sales dept.
They work great and in my opinion are the best stands out there.
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Honu
Posted on Monday, February 20, 2006 - 01:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Get front and rear! These came from DaveS.
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Chainsaw
Posted on Monday, February 20, 2006 - 02:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I'm pleased with my PitBull. Rock solid. Takes seconds to get the rear wheel off the ground, solo and without straps. Worth every penny.
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Diablobrian
Posted on Monday, February 20, 2006 - 02:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

PitBull is the best, with vortex a very close second.
They are worth every penny if you do your own maintainance.
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Sweatmark
Posted on Monday, February 20, 2006 - 03:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

As stated above - excellent quality stands, great customer service from PitBull*, and buy both front and rear! I have old style front stand, which is a bit awkward to use, but indispensible for front end work unless you suspend bike from overhead fixture.

Mark
Oregon

*PitBull sent me the correct front stand pin for my XB after I'd bought the old front stand used via eBay... no questions, no charge. I'm due to buy the new front stand ASAP, to show appreciation!
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Lowlife
Posted on Monday, February 20, 2006 - 03:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I use a Lockhart stand. Its a universal type jobby. The PitBull unit is a little more expensive, but beefier. My only gripe with the Lockhart is that its easy to skin the ribber off the tabs.
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Blake
Posted on Monday, February 20, 2006 - 03:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Excellent stand.
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Diablobrian
Posted on Monday, February 20, 2006 - 03:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Another suggestion, go ahead and pop for the stand that lifts via the head tube.
It is much more stable and allows you to remove and work on fork legs too.
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Dago
Posted on Monday, February 20, 2006 - 04:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The built quality is fantastic. But I'm not fond of those foam covered pegs that support the swing arm when lifted.

Note the angle of the lower arm of the singarm relative to the ground in the picture above. If your swingarm or foam covered pegs are wet, there is a chance that the bike will slide backwards and fall off the stand.

I say there's a chance, because it happened to me.

The last time I posted this fact, a few people chimed in saying that it was most likely the stand that rolled forward while the bike remained stationary. This was not true in my case.

Soon enough, I'll purchase the spool adapter for the PitPull stands and new spool-type swing arm sliders from Dark Horse Moto to remedy this issue.
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Diablobrian
Posted on Monday, February 20, 2006 - 05:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Any decent welding shop could weld spool mounts on your swingarm.
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Dago
Posted on Monday, February 20, 2006 - 05:30 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

True. But the moment I go down and break or bend one, I'll be forced into having the welder re-install a new one. I'd rather have the ones from Dark Horse that thread on.
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Diablobrian
Posted on Monday, February 20, 2006 - 06:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Nothing against the darkhorse product, but the only problem
with them is you can't use them while removing the rear wheel.
Kind of negates the purpose of the spools in my opinion.
It is very hard to bend or break them if installed properly. I
have personally seen these things take some brutal abuse.
There is a reason every race bike in the paddock, and every sport bike in the
show room has them. It probably isn't because they are easy to damage : )
I'd be more willing to bet it's because of the durability sliders lend.
Also because of the stability when the bike is up on the stands.
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Bcordb3
Posted on Monday, February 20, 2006 - 06:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I have the front and the rear both purchased from DaveS. Very happy with them.
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Ratyson
Posted on Monday, February 20, 2006 - 07:25 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Pitbull is right down the road from where I live. In fact, our next door neighbor is the widow of one of the founders of the company.
So, my bias says, buy a pitbull! (I know I need to)
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Buelltroll
Posted on Monday, February 20, 2006 - 07:34 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

They work good but after using them for 2.5 years they have scratched up the bottom of my swingarm pretty bad.
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Diablobrian
Posted on Monday, February 20, 2006 - 08:48 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

My above post does not in any way apply to the weld on frame sliders.
I have heard there are problems with those If your bike slides off
of the pavement. I was referring only to swing arm slider spools.
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Metalstorm
Posted on Thursday, February 23, 2006 - 08:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

After having my front & rear Pitbull stands for about 7 or 8 months now, I can't imagine not having them. Well.. I guess that's a small exaggeration. I could possibly make do without the front stand but the rear stand is priceless.
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Hkwan
Posted on Friday, February 24, 2006 - 01:59 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

"....The last time I posted this fact, a few people chimed in saying that it was most likely the stand that rolled forward while the bike remained stationary. This was not true in my case...."

Dago, I was one of those who mentioned that the incident could be bike squeezing the rear stand forward, therefore the rear stand moved.

Wondering if you were using your front stand at the time? Also, if I am only using the rear stand, I ALWAYS tie down the front brake to make sure the bike doesn't move. Also, I put a door wedge at the wheel of the rearstand to make sure the stand doesn't move forward.

I have, too, experienced bike ~almost~ falling off (caught it the last second) of the rear stand. Since then, I have also put the $1.5 door stop / wedge at the wheels of the rear stand and make sure my front brake lever is tied down.
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Dago
Posted on Friday, February 24, 2006 - 08:35 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Right on, Hkwan. I have no doubt your experiences were exactly as you describe. Mine were different. That's all.

And I agree that there are a million ways to keep the stands stable. But I'm not the type who likes improved fixes for long (right now I use a couple door stops just like you do). So for me, spools (optimally welded, as I've learned here) are the way to go.
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Hkwan
Posted on Friday, February 24, 2006 - 06:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Dago, of course, do what is right. I just want to figure out the situation with your help, that's all.

Do you still experience slippage with the door stops?

Please also post up if you find someone who can do your welding and can do it well. I am interested in see that very much. I think the area where the weld is at would look pretty messed up. May be you need to repaint the area of the wing arm after welding(?)
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Ortegakid
Posted on Friday, February 24, 2006 - 07:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

David, I'll make you some of my adapters like on mine, then you'll have the best of both worlds. Since I'm back working, we can install them sometime when I'm down here.
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Hkwan
Posted on Friday, February 24, 2006 - 08:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Ortegakid, you wouldn't have a photo of the adapter that you are talking about, would you?
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Diablobrian
Posted on Friday, February 24, 2006 - 08:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

yes, you'd have to clean up and re-paint after the welding.
Buell sells both the silver and the grey paint to match in aerosol cans.
The welding shop will also clean the paint off of the area
they will be welding on so that they can weld it. Aluminum
does not tolerate dirty welds. Any professional shop that has a good
(certified) tig welder should be able to handle the job. measure
carefully and mark where you want to have the spools mounted. Or
better yet draw up a nice clear diagram with references marked
and measured. they need to be parallel to the axle.
2 inches or so in front of the rear axle should do it.
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Diablobrian
Posted on Friday, February 24, 2006 - 08:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Ortega, I looked at your profile pic. Is that slider bolt tapped into your swingarm?
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Dago
Posted on Monday, February 27, 2006 - 08:21 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Thanks, Derek! I already have some of the color matched spray paint from Buell. So any touch-ups will be no big deal.

I wish I had paid more attention to how you did yours. I'm curious now.

Work? You're back to work again? Now why in the heck did you go and do something crazy like that?
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Ortegakid
Posted on Monday, February 27, 2006 - 11:05 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Yes, thay are as in my profile pic,i made little 1/4" alu angle brackets that bolt into the hole in the lower swingarm. Look at yours, you'll see the hole(it is for casting pressure release)just forward of the allen bolt,there is one on each side,I drilled and installed nutserts in those hole(5/16-18) and bolt the bracket on, then any standard swing arm spool can be used, I personally like the IRP ones as on mine.
And David, just couldn't help it, too much time on hands drives me crazy, you know I can't sit still!
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Diablobrian
Posted on Monday, February 27, 2006 - 11:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Ortega, mine doesn't have those. I have the chain conversion from Hal's, with built in spool holes.
That is a great way to solve the problem. Do the brackets spring inwards and touch the swingarm when on the stand?
I like the delrin spool/sliders myself. Lots of companies make them. I got mine from Lithium Motorsports.
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Ortegakid
Posted on Tuesday, February 28, 2006 - 05:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The bracket goes under and on the side of the swingarm, best you can do without welding, I like your's better, will be doing same someday,thx!
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Kurosawa
Posted on Thursday, April 20, 2006 - 11:51 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Seems like it should be possible to make a stand with little pegs that would pop directly into those holes under the swingarm.

Or we could just drill holes in the brackets on a universal (non-spool) stand, bolt bolts in those holes, and the bolt heads would limit slippage.

(Message edited by kurosawa on April 20, 2006)
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