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Ejiii
Posted on Friday, June 10, 2005 - 11:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Here is a working prototype catch can. The whole project costs about $15. This addresses all the T-fitting and backpressure concerns of the drain tube set-up some of us have been using. The top hose goes to the filter. The "side" hose comes from the engine. The bottom hose is the drain. The bottle is an ACE Hardware 2-stroke oil bottle, $0.99. Other parts include a 1/4 x 6" stainless bolt cut to length, three 3/8" hose barbs, some 3/8" hose from the auto parts store and two 1/4" rubber lined clamps. Again, this is a working prototype. Please feel free to run with this idea and come up with something really sano and reasonably priced. The hot ticket would be an opaque bottle like the JAZ unit available for automobiles. Anyway, here are the pics. Enjoy!
Catch Can 1Catch Can 2Catch Can 3
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Blasterd
Posted on Friday, June 10, 2005 - 11:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Thats the same as the 1st setup I had on my M2
Then I used a bottle of mouse from the wife, connected the necessary fittings, and it polished out just right. Was thinking about using a travel size bottle of shaving cream for this project.
Ken
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Ejiii
Posted on Saturday, June 11, 2005 - 02:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

This set-up also addresses the capacity issue. In a week of commuting, about 100mi. I had 6" of water in my 3/8" drain tube. I needed to drain it weekly. On a long trip it could overflow and then start blowing gunk out of the breather filter. This catch can has about a 3oz capacity plus the drain tube itself. I'll monitor it and see how long I can go before draining.
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Ejiii
Posted on Sunday, June 12, 2005 - 05:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I found a black cap and installed it today. Looks much better!
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Xbolt12
Posted on Sunday, June 12, 2005 - 05:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I wonder if that could be tied into the oil return line??
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Jessicasdad
Posted on Monday, June 13, 2005 - 12:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

this one is NOT clear .. but looks like a winner to me ..

http://www.jegs.com/cgi-bin/ncommerce3/ProductDisplay?prrfnbr=2463&prmenbr=361
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Cruisin
Posted on Monday, June 13, 2005 - 12:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

As for that Jaz can, it's nice, but not small. I had one on my S2. Here's the specs:



(Message edited by CruiSin on June 13, 2005)
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Jessicasdad
Posted on Monday, June 13, 2005 - 01:08 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

thanks for the dimensions .. might do a cardboard mock-up to verify ... but I am thinking that right behind the oil cooler .. or in that immediate area .. should be able to be shoe horned into it .... where did you have it mounted on your S2 ??
Bill
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Djkaplan
Posted on Monday, June 13, 2005 - 01:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

This one isn't clear, but you can see the spooge level when it fills up.

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http://www.badweatherbikers.com/buell/messages/3842/6804.html?1116420688
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Cruisin
Posted on Monday, June 13, 2005 - 01:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

On my S2 I mounted it to the vertical frame rail right under the seat (right under my butt, actually) on the left side. I was able to get it high enough up that you barely saw the nozzle sticking down, and when the bike was on it's sidestand the angle was right so I could just be drained out without getting anything on the bike. I routed the hoses up over the engine and then back down to the Jaz can.
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Spatten1
Posted on Monday, June 13, 2005 - 02:48 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Excellent mods guys, looks like a fun project.
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Ejiii
Posted on Monday, June 13, 2005 - 09:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Great ideas guys! I really like the JAZ unit and the home made one Djkaplan came up with. As long as you can see the gunk level that's good. My main concern is the exposed filter. I ride in the rain and I'm not sure saturating the filter would be a good thing. Washing is no problem with a baggie. Djkaplan, how about a parts list.
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Blasterd
Posted on Monday, June 13, 2005 - 09:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Ejiii,
I ran the Jaz on my M2 in the soaking a$$ rain here in Florida for a while, no problems.
I did order an Outerwears rain sock for it but it was too big.
I am actually working on a catch can like the Jaz as we speak except it will be aluminum.
Ken
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Ejiii
Posted on Monday, June 13, 2005 - 09:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Ken,

I look forward to some pics of your aluminum can.
K&N makes water resistant filter socks. I guess one could be cut down and zip tied over the filter to the filter base.

E. J.
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Djkaplan
Posted on Tuesday, June 14, 2005 - 07:40 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Djkaplan, how about a parts list.

The link I posted pretty much tells all the particulars. I hollowed out a huge fuel filter and glued a little K&N filter (came with my Forcewinder) to the top of it.

The filter stays dry behind the tailpiece on my tuber.
s
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Hogs
Posted on Tuesday, June 14, 2005 - 07:50 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Hey, One can make these units and no need for a filter just run a hose up and out of the way same as the tranny vent , routed the right way no Filters needed , will never suck any dust,dirt etc. all the way back to the motor think about it, also with all the oil and wet conditions inside the can, hose etc. etc. and any that did get sucked back in the hose would never make it far anyways with all that sticky sludge,...! just my .04 cents...!
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Djkaplan
Posted on Tuesday, June 14, 2005 - 07:59 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The filter it there to trap the oil mist when it blows out, not to filter air being sucked in.

If you run your breather hoses up like the transmission vent, you're just going to trap oil in the hose.
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Ejiii
Posted on Tuesday, June 14, 2005 - 10:56 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Djkaplan,

I thought that looked like a fuel filter. Thanks for the confirmation. Great idea! Real nice fit as well.

E. J.
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