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Tattdbueller
Posted on Friday, June 10, 2005 - 05:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

i have a bone stock 2005 XB12R. I was wondering how the bike would run with a Jardine can and stock ECM? i have got to get some sound, but i can't afford to buy a race ECM yet. should i change the intake? just wanted to get some experienced info as i am obviously a newbie. thanks.
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Jedwele
Posted on Friday, June 10, 2005 - 11:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

A lot of people run a stock ecm with a Jardine , so you should be fine. And then get a Race ecm when you have the money.
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Tattdbueller
Posted on Saturday, June 11, 2005 - 12:14 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I've seen a post somewhere about removing the velocity stack and installing a filter directly to the throttle body. The way I understand it the velocity stack not only becomes warped, but is mounting inside the throttle body which is reducing the opening. This is basically a set-up like the fast system without using a velocity stack. He was using a thermal blanket also to help with the heat. Would this be too much air for a Jardine and stock ECM to handle?
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Izzinya
Posted on Saturday, June 11, 2005 - 12:53 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

no more AIR in no more out


in other words

no air filter change, no desnorkel no airbox mods

only sound comes out if you change exhaust

IN THEORY....

of course you will get less back pressure,

but not enough ??????

Dyno it and tell me.

just a mechanics opinion


Izzinya
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Opto
Posted on Saturday, June 11, 2005 - 06:50 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

IN THEORY

IN PRACTISE....
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Thedevil
Posted on Saturday, June 11, 2005 - 07:53 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I've seen a post somewhere about removing the velocity stack and installing a filter directly to the throttle body

here: http://www.aussiebuellriders.info/devil.htm
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Reepicheep
Posted on Saturday, June 11, 2005 - 08:29 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The race filter and cut inner airbox probably gives you as much air as you need for your moderate mods.

Note that the Jardine gives up the exhaust valve, you might be gaining noise but loosing power down low.

I think both the Drummer folks and the Odie pipe from Stone Mountian are playing with modded flapper mufflers, they keep the valve. I have not heard a drummer, but if you like the noise you will like the odie pipe, if it is anything like the one on my 9.
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Elyaswolffxb9s
Posted on Saturday, June 11, 2005 - 12:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I just cut up my stock airbox and it made the bike LOUD.
If you do it you will like it, and it is $free$ (but man that is some tough plastic.
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Tattdbueller
Posted on Saturday, June 11, 2005 - 06:05 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

just got back from my ride today and passed the 1k mark. I'm going to do all my own servicing. I was wondering is it really necessary to have the TPS reset? My bike is running strong.
So I guess I'll try a desorkle,k & n and Jardine and see what happens. Anyone else have this combo on a 12?
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Izzinya
Posted on Sunday, June 12, 2005 - 01:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

"just got back from my ride today and passed the 1k mark. I'm going to do all my own servicing. I was wondering is it really necessary to have the TPS reset? My bike is running strong.
So I guess I'll try a desorkle,k & n and Jardine and see what happens. Anyone else have this combo on a 12?"



now you are gonna let more air in ........


you will need to remap/race module/powercomander/tfi


tps zero, air fuel zero,

or the bike will run like cr@p !!!!!


Izzinya
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Kds1
Posted on Sunday, June 12, 2005 - 02:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Reepi, The Drummer does not retain the valve's operation for the 12....it is simply not needed for making power, but if you leave the stock muffler in tact with the tubes inside and you want to make linear torque, well you want the valve....

Tatt, you'll be fine with the jardine and the stock ecm...

Kevin

www.kdfab.com
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Daves
Posted on Sunday, June 12, 2005 - 02:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I can get you the Jardine for 261.00
1-866-757-1651
ask for Dave in the sales dept.
I won't be back at work til Tuesday after 10 am
I have them in stock.
As long as you don't do the air filter or mod the airbox you will be fine running the muffler until you can do the ECM
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Redtail69
Posted on Sunday, June 12, 2005 - 11:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Tattdbueller,

I have the same set up. All I can say is that I have not noticed much in the loss of power department. In fact this thing has got so much power that I wonder what would happen if I could get more!! Tickets, killing myself, who knows. Anyhow, I say go for it and get the set up. Get the tps reset though. My ran a little foul for a minute until I had the 1000 Mi. service.
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Tattdbueller
Posted on Monday, June 13, 2005 - 01:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Thanks for the help guys. Dave I'll let you know as soon as I'm ready. I'm also working on a little rigid chopper so I'm trying to feed both my projects at the same time.
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