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Jaimec
Posted on Friday, December 16, 2022 - 07:31 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

So... what do you think of the "Sprint Races?" I'm thinking we're going to be seeing a LOT more injuries next year...
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Fresnobuell
Posted on Monday, December 19, 2022 - 12:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I think it is a wise move to up that action in GP. I think they are replacing a FP with the shorter sprint race? I like the short races because tires are much less of an concern, thus everyone is going 100% from lights out. Why do you think injuries would be a concern? If we are comparing to WSBK, there isn't an overwhelming amount of crashing during the Superpole race.
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Jaimec
Posted on Monday, December 19, 2022 - 04:05 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Do you really think that someone like Marc Marquez will take it easy in the Sprint race because there aren't as many points on the line?

I'm only a LITTLE familiar with the super pole races in WSBK. Does the entire grid participate, or only a percentage of the top finishers from Race 1?
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Fresnobuell
Posted on Monday, December 19, 2022 - 04:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I don't think anyone will take the Sprint race easy. As a matter of fact, it is the opposite because tire life is not a concern generally so everyone goes 100% from the outset. More people tend to be in the mix in the shorter races, although the usual suspects tend to win still (in WSBK). A shorter race with less tire wear issues maybe considered safer for the riders...or course not as safe as the FP it replaces obviously.


In WSBK, the entire grid participates in the Superpole race. The top 9 finishers in Superpole race become the top 9 on the grid for Race 2 later that Sunday. I believe the rest of the grid in Race 2 is organized by the original qualification order.
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Jaimec
Posted on Tuesday, December 20, 2022 - 07:36 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)


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I don't think anyone will take the Sprint race easy. As a matter of fact, it is the opposite because tire life is not a concern generally so everyone goes 100% from the outset




And there you have it. More crashes GUARANTEED.
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Fresnobuell
Posted on Wednesday, December 21, 2022 - 03:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Again, based on what I saw in WSBk--I do not think there is a basis for the drama in MotoGP. Will there be more crashes compared to another FP session--probably. Will there be more crashes compared to a full length race--doubtful. I will say for the spectators this is a huge improvement. The GP divas will have to suck it up. I will also go out on a limb that the sprint race will be the most exciting race of the GP weekend.
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Jaimec
Posted on Thursday, December 22, 2022 - 07:34 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

We'll visit this again in November 2023...
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Fresnobuell
Posted on Friday, December 23, 2022 - 02:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I am assuming this change will happen in this upcoming season? If so, then we should get an idea when the season begins.
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Jaimec
Posted on Sunday, December 25, 2022 - 07:53 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I figured the complete data wouldn't be available till the END of the season.
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Fresnobuell
Posted on Tuesday, December 27, 2022 - 02:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

How many of the GP riders are complaining about the sprint race? Is just a few divas or the whole paddock? I always thought racers like to race.
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Jaimec
Posted on Saturday, December 31, 2022 - 10:19 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Although I've seen several interviews of riders who aren't thrilled about the prospect I've yet to see any looking forward to them. Unscientific, I know... but that's all I've got.
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Fresnobuell
Posted on Monday, January 09, 2023 - 01:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Hopefully it is just an initial reaction to change. Most people, including myself, aren't fond of change.
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Jaimec
Posted on Tuesday, January 10, 2023 - 05:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Here ya go:
https://www.crash.net/motogp/news/1018716/1/motogp -riders-freak-out-over-sprint-races-no-bonus-we-wo n-t-race
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Fresnobuell
Posted on Monday, January 16, 2023 - 11:51 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I saw something that said this sprint race was in response to declining attendance and tv ratings for MotoGP. If so, the racers had better be looking at the big picture if they truly are against the extra race.
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Jaimec
Posted on Monday, January 16, 2023 - 04:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

That doesn't make sense... Since beIN Sports lost the broadcasting rights, only the Sunday races are shown on television!!
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Fresnobuell
Posted on Monday, January 16, 2023 - 04:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I am not sure if/how the Saturday sprint race will be televised, but certainly another race on Saturday will spice up the schedule for the in-person attendees.
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Jaimec
Posted on Tuesday, January 17, 2023 - 08:14 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I would think that would be the point, not at-home television viewers. But everytime I attended the races at Indianapolis, I went for all three days, not just the Sunday race. However, I did note that each year, the Sunday crowd was far larger than the Friday/Saturday crowds. Friday, I could understand as most people are still working on that day. Saturday qualifying to me was just as exciting as the Sunday racing but I guess most people just cared about the final event.

Even now, when I attend the MotoAmerica Races, I don't just go for the Sunday race. It's nice to wander around the paddock on Friday and Saturday to meet and chat with the racers and their teams. Of course, with MotoGP and DORNA, you had to PAY for that privilege. We did it one year and decided it wasn't worth it because most of the big names tried to avoid everyone. We did get to chat with Aleix Esparagaro and Herve Poncharal, though.
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Fresnobuell
Posted on Tuesday, January 17, 2023 - 04:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

You are not the typical fan--nor am I. The race is considered the highlight of the weekend with all the pomp and circumstance. Qualifying is ok, but these days they seem to sit in the pits until the last two minutes and then go out on their qualifying tires for a couple hot laps (alluding to WSBK as I don't think GP has Q-tires anymore).

I agree about the entire weekend. We always camp for three days. There is so much more to the weekend that just the races--but the races are undoubtedly the most exciting event(s) of the weekend.
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Jaimec
Posted on Wednesday, January 18, 2023 - 07:44 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

MotoGP doesn't have qualifying tires anymore BUT the teams do reserve a set or two of the softest tires available for their hot laps...
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Fresnobuell
Posted on Wednesday, January 18, 2023 - 04:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

i honestly don't like Q-tires. The lap times produced are outliers in relation to everything else. Riders and bikes have to be adjust to what amounts to a new setup. I just don't get it. I think GP was right in getting rid of the Q-tires.
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