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Gaesati
Posted on Saturday, February 04, 2012 - 04:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

What makes the definitive racer?
The best I ever saw was Wayne Rainey.
He seemed to have that magic blend of genius, comprising, ability on the bike, courage, determination, hardness, aggressiveness, ability to analyse the bike and the communication skills with his team necessary to develop the bike, the tactical ability to win a race against the odds, to get consistent points when a win is not possible, to plan a season as well as a race. to intimidate the opposition and undermine them psychologically(both on and off the track)
Are there other abilities required?
Wayne Rainey did not win as many championships as Rossi, but to my mind he was up there with Rossi as a dominant force. What would his career have been like had he made it to motoGP/ the 500's earlier in his career or had not had that horrible accident.?
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Trojan
Posted on Monday, February 06, 2012 - 09:25 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Seems Nicky Hayden needs another op on his shoulder, which may mean he can't test the Ducati at jerez later this month : (

If it wasn't for bad luck he and Ducati would have none at all it seems.....

Interesting to see if they call up Rossi to test the bike at jerez or if the 'new' testing rules don't come into force until after the start of the season.

If that is the case then he wouldn't be able to do any further testing outside of the official pre-season Sepang tests because he has used up his extra 1000cc test days I think.

If the new rules are in force now then Rossi could conceivably do the Jerez test in place of Hayden, but would use up part of his test tyre allocation for the year.
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Xb1125r
Posted on Monday, February 06, 2012 - 01:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I thought the guy everyone enjoyed gettign beat was already there.
Danny,lol
the cry baby
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Trojan
Posted on Tuesday, February 07, 2012 - 05:40 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I thought the guy everyone enjoyed gettign beat was already there.
Danny,lol
the cry baby


Only in the US for some strange reason : ) Dani is actually pretty popular in Europe and a huge sporting hero in Spain. Even in the UK he is certainly more popular with the fans than his antipodean team mate ; )

Whether he has the physical stature required to muscle a heavier bike around is open to question, but he certainly has the mental toughness he needs, and managed to get the most from the 990 pretty well most of the time. I hope he gives Stoner a good run for his money this year, as I fear it may be his last at HRC unless he wins the title.
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Blake
Posted on Tuesday, February 07, 2012 - 10:51 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Danny has never been a crybaby. More the opposite, almost entirely dispassionate towards the sport.
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Davegess
Posted on Tuesday, February 07, 2012 - 12:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

almost entirely dispassionate towards the sport.

I think it has been more that he is extremely reserved and not give to any display of emotion.
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Gaesati
Posted on Tuesday, February 07, 2012 - 03:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Dani Pedrosa is a great hearted racer. If he can stay aboard and unhurt this year he should give a good account of himself. He has the talent to win and the bike to do it.
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Xb1125r
Posted on Tuesday, February 07, 2012 - 04:08 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

OMG, do any of you guys subscrbe to MOTOGP.com
otherwise you would know he is a cry baby.
always complaining.
and as far as he being loved in europe, so are the others. Lorenzo is from another part of spain, the kind that don't like the area of the country that danny is from.
its like in america, south and north, very different. people like spies becuase he is a texan guy and unlike Nicky, people think he is dumb becuase he is from the south.
just observations I see in people
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Bads1
Posted on Tuesday, February 07, 2012 - 04:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

LOL Actually you post like you know nothing. Just a observation.
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Blake
Posted on Tuesday, February 07, 2012 - 05:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Dave,

dispassionate (adjective): uninfluenced by emotion.

synonymn: reserved


: )





Bill (XB1125R),

>>> people like spies becuase (sic) he is a texan (sic) guy (sic) and unlike Nicky, people think he is dumb becuase (sic) he is from the south (sic).

Which stands in stark contrast to others who prove themselves dummies through their posts on the internet.

(Message edited by Blake on February 07, 2012)
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Trojan
Posted on Wednesday, February 08, 2012 - 05:03 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

OMG, do any of you guys subscrbe to MOTOGP.com
otherwise you would know he is a cry baby.
always complaining.


Most top sportsmen and women (with a few notable exceptions) tend to complain more when they aren't winning. Dani has had a lot to complain about in recent years with constant injuries etc, but compared to his team mate he is an absolute ray of sunshine : ) He is not the most fluent English speaker on the grid and has to think through what he says before he says it, which can sometimes make him seem reserved or even miserable, which is a shame. I'm sure if some english speaking riders were interviewed in a foreign language they might come across in the same manner.
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Blake
Posted on Wednesday, February 08, 2012 - 12:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

He's a very intelligent man, and is very deliberate in his approach to racing. He entered MotoGP with HUGE expectations after utterly, totally dominating 250GP. The hype and hurrah went to his head a bit, but since 2006, and his foolish crash into Nick Hayden, he's matured. I don't root against him any more. I sure do support a minimum weight for total rider+machine.

Rumor is that Danny endures some psychological scarring from getting beat by an American in 2006; he reportedly suffers a recurring metaphorical nightmare wherein no matter how much he tries to get away, he ends up being ingested by an 1125R. Fear the pods!
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Jaimec
Posted on Sunday, February 12, 2012 - 04:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

C'mon guys... is it TOO MUCH to ask that you spell Dani's name correctly?? I'm no fan of his, but really.

Almost as bad as the CONSTANT misspelling of Erik Buell I see here (and this is SUPPOSED to be a forum for fans of the guy).

Carry on...
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Crusty
Posted on Sunday, February 12, 2012 - 06:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)



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Xb1125r
Posted on Monday, February 13, 2012 - 09:53 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

its actually Daniel, but no one pronounces it right so Danny is easier.
he still a cry baby,lol
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Xb1125r
Posted on Monday, February 13, 2012 - 10:03 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Trojan, Danny is a crybaby in the spanish speaking interviews. I think he is just really frustrated that he is really talented but there is always someone that steals his spotlight. as long as stoner, lorenzo are racing danni's chances are limited.
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Jaimec
Posted on Monday, February 13, 2012 - 10:04 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Closest phonetic spelling would be:

"DAH nee"

So if you wanted a closer English spelling it would be "Donny" not "Danny."
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Xb1125r
Posted on Monday, February 13, 2012 - 12:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

the problem is that in america there are no rules and people at least in this last generation, attempt to be so called creative and change a letter or 2 in a name to make their kids unique.
example
bil,bill,billy,billi,billie
dany, danny, daniel, danniel, crybaby,lol
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Jaimec
Posted on Monday, February 13, 2012 - 01:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Wonder if they realize how much EASIER it makes their kids to "Cyber Stalk" when they do that?

Much easier to find "Blue Ivy Carter," for example, than "James Smith..."

I was able to locate old high school friends with unique names easily. Others were a LOT harder to impossible to find since their names were so common.
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Bads1
Posted on Monday, February 13, 2012 - 01:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Alrighty then... back on topic ??
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Jaimec
Posted on Monday, February 13, 2012 - 04:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

If anyone saw my post in the World Superbike thread... it looks like John Hopkins' quest to return to MotoGP just had a serious setback. If it weren't for bad luck, he'd have no luck at all.
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Gaesati
Posted on Tuesday, February 14, 2012 - 06:17 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

A year in WSBK would be good for Hopper and for WSBK. In Motogp he would just be back on an uncompetitive bike wasting the best years of his not inconsiderable talent.
They should have had a rule that no one was saddled with a Suzuki ride in motogp for more than two years.
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Trojan
Posted on Tuesday, February 14, 2012 - 06:23 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

If anyone saw my post in the World Superbike thread... it looks like John Hopkins' quest to return to MotoGP just had a serious setback. If it weren't for bad luck, he'd have no luck at all.

To be honest it was always going to be a very long shot for him to get back into a decent team in GP racing at his age and with his history. With Suzuki out of the picture it is even more unlikely, although a CRT team may want him for his experience. By the time contract negotiations start for the big teams next season he will be past his sell by date I think (even without further injury).
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Xb1125r
Posted on Tuesday, February 14, 2012 - 09:48 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I think Hoper is done. he could not do much in AMA. if can't beat the guys in AMA how is he supposed to race any other league.
personally I would take Hayes, mladin before I would take Hoper.
Now Bautista proved he is very talented. what he did for suzuki last season was awesome. finishing ahead of nicky and Rossi.
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Bads1
Posted on Tuesday, February 14, 2012 - 12:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Xb1125r,

You really don't have a clue do you?? He did bad in AMA because he wasn't 100%. He was second in points last year first time out.

2011 British Superbike Championship Points:
1. Tommy Hill, 647
2. John Hopkins, 645
3. Shane Byrne, 625
4. Michael Laverty, 601
5. Josh Brookes, 598
6. Ryuichi Kiyonari, 526
7. Jon Kirkham, 210
8. Michael Rutter, 164
9. Peter Hickman, 155
10. Gary Mason, 139
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Trojan
Posted on Wednesday, February 15, 2012 - 04:45 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

He also didn't have the greatest relationship with his team in AMA when he returned from WSBK, plus he still had 'personal' problems to deal with.
He showed that once he had his head together and a decent team behind him he could still run at the front in BSB last year, and in the WSBK wild card at Silverstone.
However, that is still a long way from being competitive in MotoGP (look at how many WSBK riders have failed to impress when the move to GP).
Hoppers biggest problem however is that there are more good riders than good bikes in MotoGP at the moment, so his chance of getting a competitive ride next year would be extremely slim. All of the 'aliens' are out of contract at the end of 2012 so the major focus for the factories will be on signing Stoner, Rossi, Lorenzo, Pedrosa, Spies etc first. Hopper would be in the long line of other riders hoping to pick up the pieces that left or risk riding for a CRT team for a lot less money : (

With Moto2 riders already guaranteed GP rides next year (Bradley Smith and Marc Marquez are certainties) then the available rides will diminish even further for riders trying to move from WSBK.
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Jaimec
Posted on Wednesday, February 15, 2012 - 03:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Just remember that before he joined the AMA Grid, Hopper had NEVER been on a production-based superbike racer before. He isn't a typical WSBK rider moving up to MotoGP, he was a MotoGP rider who was forced to look elsewhere for employment when Kawasaki pulled the plug on their MotoGP program.
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Bads1
Posted on Wednesday, February 15, 2012 - 03:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Just remember that before he joined the AMA Grid, Hopper had NEVER been on a production-based superbike racer before

His testing times and when he qualified for races shown otherwise. He showing that he had the speed. He however didnt have a good hand that would let him have the longevity for the whole race. He was sponsored and actually told them a lie that he was healthy and wasn't.
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Xb1125r
Posted on Wednesday, February 15, 2012 - 05:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I was not aware of hoper being ill, during AMA. he def did not appear to me like he was competevive agains the other riders in the AMA. I was surpeised to see him in BSB, but I guess they pay better. who knows.
I just dont see BSB at the level of AMA.
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Jaimec
Posted on Wednesday, February 15, 2012 - 07:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

He wasn't ill, he was broken. Too many injuries and he pushed himself too hard, which meant he missed more races than he actually competed in.
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