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186bigtwin
Posted on Tuesday, March 30, 2010 - 04:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

What sanctioning bodies can you run these 1190's in?
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Rocketsprink
Posted on Tuesday, March 30, 2010 - 05:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

http://www.pegasusraceteam.com/
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186bigtwin
Posted on Tuesday, March 30, 2010 - 08:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Man, that Pegasus team is really into it... I guess you could race one in the AHRMA BOTT F-1, might be overkill though....
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70rsss
Posted on Wednesday, March 31, 2010 - 12:21 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

AHRMA only allows modern bikes in superstock form to race BOTT & SOT classes.
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Trojan
Posted on Wednesday, March 31, 2010 - 06:10 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Outside of AMA racing there are unfortunately very few classes where the 1190 (or even the 1125RR) are legal for racing, at least in Europe (I don't know about US classes).

Almost all classes over here are production based, and race organisers over here have not been as accomodating in applying the production rules as the AMA have been regarding the 1125RR so it doesn't class as production based. Even the 1125R would no longer class as a production bike as it is no longer manufactured as a street bike. This means the only classes open to the 1125RR or 1190 would be Sound of Thunder at club, national or European level or possibly various national 'sport twins' or BOTT classes such as Pegasus racing are running in, although a lot of these have production based rules too. These classes are getting less common than they used to be as organisers can fill grids many times over with 600/1000 sports bikes without the risk of half full grids in 'eccentric' classes such as SoT/BoTT.

When we set up UK Thunderbike racing back in 2006 (based on the US Thunderbike rules)we had to guarantee grids of 30+ for the organisers to consider running it as a stand alone class. Anything less than that and you got lumped in with the 400 sports bikes or similar. Even with Thunderbike rules favouring large capacity air cooled twins such as the XB, and given the Buell success in US Thunderbike competition, we were the only team to race a Buell in UK Thunderbke and since we stopped nobody else has bothered to try. It is much easier/cheaper to run an old CBR 600/SV650(700)/Ducati 748 and still run at the front than it is to spend a lot more money running a Buell XB.

Lastly, racers are conservative beasts and will tend to race what is seen to be winning adn what they are used to and comfortable with rather than try something new and unproved (Just look at how 'conventional' all the new Moto2 GP bikes are), so EBR face a bit of a mountain to climb persuading riders to switch from their current rides I think. Even in the AMA Sportbike class where Buell won last year there hasn't been a rush to race Buells rather than R6 Yamahas and Hondas. Unless there is a big financial or incentive or major competitive advantage to change manufacturer I can't see many people swapping unfortunately.
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Knickers
Posted on Wednesday, March 31, 2010 - 12:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

It would be legal for F1 in WERA Nationals.
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186bigtwin
Posted on Wednesday, March 31, 2010 - 04:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Too bad, we may never see it against top notch competition like the superbike 1198's, aprilla V4's or Suzukis 1000's.....
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Vagelis46
Posted on Thursday, April 01, 2010 - 06:52 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

This is up to Erik........
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Court
Posted on Thursday, April 01, 2010 - 11:10 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

>>>so EBR face a bit of a mountain to climb

That's half the fun . . . challenges are the fuel of success.
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