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Clk92vette
Posted on Friday, January 19, 2018 - 10:08 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I have owned two 1125R's since 2009, totaled my first one, and am starting to think hard about a better two up bike. My son is about to turn 14yo and we started riding together last summer. He loves to ride with me, like I did with my dad on his Kawasaki two stroke triple, but the 1125R is not a great two up bike. I am interested in the KTM, Ducati, & Aprilia ADV's; but also seriously considering a Uly. 95% of our riding will be on road, but I do expect some fire road trips also. I understand the technical differences between the XB12X & XT and am leaning toward the XT based on what I know. But I wanted some feedback from the guys who really know. I am surprised by how little two up bike reviews exist on the web. Please provide your feedback.
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Redra65k
Posted on Friday, January 19, 2018 - 11:15 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I rarely ride not two up lol ... my wife is not a happy camper if she gets left behind.

at 6ft and 200lbs for me and 5'6" 120lbs for her

with:

side bags (no top case )

full tank bag

low seat

My 09 xb12x Uly rides like a dream honestly the most comfortable stock riding position and seat I've ever owned....


I can't compare to the xt though

From what I've read and heard, if you're under 6 feet I would seriously consider the xt for mostly on road riding ... even loaded down I'm barely flat footed at a stoplight .....
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Froggy
Posted on Friday, January 19, 2018 - 11:26 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I've done two up on both, only difference I can mention is the XT is easier to get on and off of. X seems a bit more wheelie happy two up than the XT.
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Ratbuell
Posted on Friday, January 19, 2018 - 12:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

That could be preload settings.

We did 3-day 2-up around lake Michigan for Homecoming one year on my 06 X, no issues or complaints. Biggest thing is, max out the rear preload when you add a passenger. I never touch the front end, just crank up the rear preload to max...and go. Handles like a dream.

(Message edited by ratbuell on January 19, 2018)
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Tootal
Posted on Friday, January 19, 2018 - 01:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

It's more a question of inseam than height. I am flat footed on an X with bent knees! I love my X! If your at a 32" inseam or less then the XT might fit you better. If jeep trails get to be more fun then the X, with it's longer suspension, would be the winner as long as you can reach the ground.
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Ratbuell
Posted on Friday, January 19, 2018 - 03:48 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

...and if you're doing a lot of rough-ground, regardless of which chassis you have, get the X wheels with the reinforced rim construction. A tad bit heavier than standard XB/XT wheels, but definitely stronger and less likely to taco at an inopportune time.
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Rkc00
Posted on Friday, January 19, 2018 - 08:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I have an X for sale. You would love it
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Screamer
Posted on Saturday, January 20, 2018 - 12:47 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I rode an XT for a couple of seasons and an X for about 10k with the stock suspension - and another 17k with XT suspension installed. My wife liked the XT setup mostly because it was easier to get on and off the bike.
Like others have mentioned, the front end on either setup would get pretty light with two-up if the rear suspension was set too soft.
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Etennuly
Posted on Saturday, January 20, 2018 - 10:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I have thousands of miles two up on my 06 X. I dare say you will have to go to a chrome couch or a Goldwing for better pilon accommodations. My experienced passengers all were impressed with the amount of seating space and comfort of the seat itself.

I run with the side and top bags all of the time. They say it gives a sense of security feeling less exposed.
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7873jake
Posted on Saturday, January 20, 2018 - 11:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

My wife prefers the pillion on the '07 X Uly to our '10 Heritage Softail or the '07 Bonnie. There's an enormous gap between us should she choose to sit all the way back against the backrest.

She flatly refused rides on the Duc 748 but honestly, it was crippling even for me to ride unless it was track days with lots of movement.

The Uly is the ONLY bike I've ever ridden that never felt taxed, wallowy, noodle'ish or out of its element with two up. I have an '85 Electra Glide that has a hinge in the middle of the frame compared to the Buell.

If the suspension is set correctly, according to the few general guidelines in the manuals (or with input from others here)it handles like its nearly unphased in the twisties by the addition of another bum.

What everyone says about acceleration is true (feeling light up front) and I would add that aggressive braking pitches you forward due to the amt of suspension on the Uly compared with other bikes. It doesn't brake flat like some bikes (but I didn't expect it to because of what it is). Its not unsettling though or panic inducing.

I have an '02 S3T that handles beautifully but isn't nearly as good as the '07 X when hauling heavy loads. Its dead flat when on the brakes 2-up though. It also wheelies easily 2-up.
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