| Author | Message | ||
     Agood1 |
I have a raw gasoline smell around my 06 Uly after every ride. I don't see any signs of leaks. What could be causing this smell? It goes away after the bike cools down. | ||
| Od_cleaver |
It comes from Erik Buell's decision to wrap a fuel tank around a hot engine. The easiest fix is to let the motorcycle cool down outside before pushing it into the garage. | ||
| Agood1 |
So it's venting the expanded warm vapors out somewhere? Where? | ||
| Garrcano |
Black small tube, behind left foot peg. | ||
| Ratbuell |
Actually Erik's plan was to wrap it around a liquid cooled engine...but then the v-rod turned the revolution motor into a porker and the update waited till 08 when the 1125 debuted. | ||
| Teeps |
It's ugly, but if you add the 50 state charcoal canister. The bike and garage will be, vapor, smell free all the time. Canister visable between frame and primary chain inspection cover. http://0.tqn.com/d/motorcycles/1/7/-/J/-/-/08_Buell_XB12XT_Engine_Left.jpg (Message edited by teeps on May 20, 2013) | ||
| Agood1 |
Tell me more.... | ||
| Teeps |
It's for Ca evaporative emissions control. Simply: The tank vent connects to the canister. The canister has a second tube that connects to ported vacuum on the throttle body. The canister has a vent to atmosphere. Fuel vapors collect in the canister where they are filtered by the charcoal element. Then during ported vacuum events the vapors are drawn into the engine and burned. | ||
| Thumpthump |
I took my carbon filter off because I didn't like the look of it. Then I didn't like the smell and fuel dripping from the tube. I put it back on. I guess I'll take function over aesthetics. | ||
| Froggy |
Yea but the 1125s do the same thing with the gas smell, so the issue is the fuel tank getting hot from the motor, regardless of the engine cooling system. Like the above say, add the carbon canister. The can, the hoses, and attachment clamps run about $50 combined if I remember right.  | ||
| Luftkoph |
jeez that is ugly,I wonder if you could get a chrome one from the p&a catalog,a screaming eagle even  | ||
| Motorbike |
I agree, it is ugly. I was tempted to put one on my XT until I saw that picture. Is there anywhere else that can could be mounted and just run longer hoses? My bike seems to have the gas smell mostly after just filling the tank and then parking it in my small, one car workshop. I have been avoiding filling the tank until the day I plan to ride. Seems to help a little, not sure though. | ||
| Froggy |
I find it funny that people that ride the ugliest motorcycle ever made are concerned about looks. Yes you can get a chrome version if you want to make it look even more out of place. | ||
| Motorbike |
I agree that the Buells are strange looking and ugly in a neat kind of way. But that emissions canister just pushes it over the edge...... | ||
| Teeps |
Never see the canister when I'm riding. The rest of time; who cares? | ||
| Agood1 |
Where do I get the parts and instructions? | ||
| Sparky |
I have just a canister leftover from the 98 S3 that I traded for my 1125R. PM if interested. For instructions, look in the Factory Service Manual and there should be a page for the Evaporative Emmissions Control-CA Models. Essentially there are two hoses, one goes to the fuel tank vent valve and the other goes to the intake manifold. The canister is labeled for which goes where. | ||
| Uly_man |
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| Ourdee |
 Froggy, What the hamhock? It ain't ugly. | ||
| Ourdee |
What I don't understand is why go to all the effort of making a slim bike, Then putting the bulbous bags on it? | ||
| Griffmeister |
Sure the carbon canister is supposed to take care of fuel vapor, but doesn't excessive exposure to raw fuel affect them in any way? If I fuel up (to the first ring) and then park the bike at the station for a rest/snack it will start barfing out fuel after a few minutes. I had thought this was not good for the canisters. | ||
| Luftkoph |
Of course I have no room to call anything ugly,look what I hung on the side of mine.  | ||
| Teeps |
Griffmeister Posted on Tuesday, May 21, 2013 but doesn't excessive exposure to raw fuel affect them in any way? Yes. Raw (liquid) fuel, not so much with vapors. http://www.wisegeek.org/what-is-a-charcoal-caniste r.htm If I fuel up (to the first ring) and then park the bike at the station for a rest/snack it will start barfing out fuel after a few minutes. I had thought this was not good for the canisters. Possible, but only if you top off the tank. | ||
| Froggy |
There have been reports by 1125r owners who overfill the tank, when they have the carbon can installed that the bike is sometimes harder to start. The can stores the vapors then they get sucked into the throttle body during normal operation, but if you absolutely flood the can by overfilling the tank, it can make the startup mixture too rich and more difficult to start. Basically you shouldn't be overfilling your bike regardless if you have the can or not, as you are just wasting fuel. | ||
| Griffmeister |
Froggy, as per the manual, the first ring in the fill neck is the full mark. I always stop there and it's not a problem if I drive away and park even as few as one or two miles. If I stick around at the station it will barf after five minutes. Case in point, at the ADK filled up at Valero and went back to FWH with no overflow. In the afternoon, filled up in Lake Placid and stayed there just a few minutes and started painting their driveway. I think I'll just forgo the charcoal for now. |
