| Author | Message | ||
     Electraglider_1997 |
Sure hope it is real innovative in its design. | ||
| Streetgliderx |
I just bought a ulysses so they better wait a few years before makin one!! I'd hate to have to buy another bike this year!!! | ||
| Buewulf |
The more innovative it is, the more expensive it will be. I also find a lot of "innovations" don't really pay any dividends in the real world anyway. Just engineering for engineering's sake. If they are going to make it expensive, then I'd rather them spend the R&D on making it light. I'll take a lighter, more traditional adventure bike (assuming that is what an AX is) over an "innovative" one any day. Hell, a light, big-bore adventure bike would be innovative, a first for the class! I am sure it will get the "Buell... We're different!" stamp on the design work, and I bet it will be light. But as far any other "innovations", I am sure I could live without them and pretty sure I'd rather not pay for them. | ||
| Mnrider |
Just add ABS and a smoother engine and keep the price down. | ||
| Motorbike |
+1 on what Buewulf said. | ||
| Fordhotline |
If they are going to keep up with the other manufactures they are going to have to offer ABS and some form of traction control and different modes of power options. Hard luggage, adjustable windscreen and heated acc. The ADV segment is getting Popular and that is what the others are doing. And everyone is around that 15K mark. All accept the Honda NC700X , but they are offering there new ride with a Auto trans! Yuk.. | ||
| Maximum |
Whatever Uly type of motorcycle EBR introduces...I imagine that it will be the best of Erik Buell (within a given targeted price point) without all of the HD compromises! I'm all in...and it doesn't even exist yet. | ||
| Orangeulius |
+1 Buewulf and Maximum. | ||
| Froggy |
I'd love an automatic or push button shift semi automatic. I love riding my 1125R because between the slipper clutch and already smooth transmission, it is effortless to shift gears, and the clutch is only needed at complete stops. The XB on the other hand is damn near unrideable, I usually skip the even number gears to reduce the stress on my hands and feet. An automatic or semi auto would make it a breeze to ride in traffic or low speeds too. Also while they are at it, just ditch gasoline motors altogether. If I want something noisy, smelly, and slow I'll just ride anything else. | ||
| Fordhotline |
The Honda received some good reviews. I rode an old Hondamatic years ago and it was not pleasant. imagine things have come a long way since then. Honda looks the cheapest uly type ride coming out. May sell alot because of that. If EBR comes to the game to late with something like the Uly it may be to late, market may be flooded with Honda NC riders. Me, I just need a gearbox. I would like to imagine my Uly with a 1125 motor in it. Drop the ABS and make it lighter would help. I hope they build something soon so i can take a look at it. | ||
| Biffdotorg |
"The XB on the other hand is damn near unrideable, I usually skip the even number gears to reduce the stress on my hands and feet." Please tell me there is sarcasm in that statement Froggy?!?!? Slamming through gears on acceleration is the best part!! Maybe that's why you get better mileage than any Buell rider on the board. | ||
| Motorbike |
The XB on the other hand is damn near unrideable Froggy, that's hilarious! I, on the other hand, rode an 1125R and was glad no one saw me. Probably looked like a monkey humpin' a football, all hunched over like that. Now the XT, that is the most comfortable, easy to ride bike I have ever ridden! | ||
| Froggy |
I'm not joking, I've been even thinking about picking this up to install on one of mine. http://www.amazon.com/Pingel-Electric-Easy-Shift-7 7450/dp/B000N71FMC/ I've already injured my foot from shifting. The 1125r shifts just by thinking about it, while the XB is dramatic, takes excessive effort, and then makes a clunk so loud that cars start swerving away and everyone riding ducks. | ||
| Ulynut |
Adjust your clutch and primary chain.  Mine shifts beautifully. | ||
| Maximum |
Better hurry Froggy...there's only one left!  | ||
| Mnrider |
Good thing ponies don't have shifters. | ||
| Mikef5000 |
I'd love an automatic or push button shift semi automatic. Yeah, and you love my little pony too.  If you want to build a bike to sell to the masses, it needs to have a clutch. | ||
| Froggy |
It isn't that, I have several bikes. In the past I thought it was normal, but after being spoiled by bikes with proper transmissions, I can't easily ride an air cooled Buell anymore.
Interesting, the according to Google, the worlds most popular motorcycle, the Honda Cub, with over 60 million built, doesn't have a clutch lever. "3 or 4 speed, semi-automatic with wet multi-plate centrifugal clutch" The Yamaha FJR is among the growing number of "big bikes" that have something other than a standard transmission available. | ||
| Uly_man |
"while the XB is dramatic, takes excessive effort, and then makes a clunk so loud that cars start swerving away and everyone riding ducks." Are you joking on this Froggy? | ||
| Hughlysses |
The problem is Froggy doesn't ride his extensive XB collection enough to put enough miles on them for the transmissions to break in and loosen up properly. He's also posted before he catches hell adjusting a primary chain correctly; maybe he still hasn't figured it out. | ||
| Bikelit |
I had a Honda Cub with vise-grips on the shift shaft. It was damm near unrideable.....  | ||
| Motorbike |
Froggy, if you do install that electric shift on your XB, please make sure to cover the chrome cylinder or paint it black. ( No chrome allowed on a Buell ) | ||
| Hughlysses |
( No chrome allowed on a Buell ) Actually our Ulys already have a couple of pieces; the front brake lever adjuster and the top of the steering stem. I noticed some rust on both of mine last week. Back on topic... This month's Cycle World has an adventure bike comparison, including the Ducati Multistrada, the Moto Guzzi Stelvio, the Yamaha Super Tenere, and the Triumph Tiger. There's also a side article about the forth coming water cooled BMW boxer twin in the next GS. I didn't pull an older issue to compare stats, but it appeared to me our Ulys would still hang in there pretty well. The Duc has obviously got the most power and is the most sophisticated. If you want an air-cooled V-twin, the Guzzi is your clear choice but that thing is HEAVY and apparently significantly down on power compared to our Buells. I'm not keen on wire wheels either. The Super Tenere seemed a bit low on power as well. The Triumph seems best all-around as far as stats, but IIRC the reviewers didn't like several things about it. They speculate that power on the water cooled BMW boxer will be up significantly, maybe even into Multistrada territory. Given that that's EBR's adventure bike competition, it'll be interesting to see where they aim in that spectrum. Uber sophisticated or minimal gadgetry? Highest HP or moderate HP and maximum flexibility? More dirt-oriented or more at the street end of things? I honesty don't know what I'd prefer, but I trust them to come up with something damned interesting. | ||
| Hughlysses |
I was thinking about this some more, and I think one thing that EBR could add to the ADV bike mix is to be innovative on the LUGGAGE. I always thought that was kind of goofy about the Uly- Buell did all this stuff to centralize the mass for handling, then hung standard old motorcycle luggage off the bike, including a massive tail box mounted as high and as far back on the bike as they could get it. That kind of negated all the mass centralization. I remember several years ago Kawasaki showed a concept sport tourer (maybe just drawings) that featured luggage mounted forward of the rider and down fairly low. It'd be cool to see what EBR could do along those lines. | ||
| Electraglider_1997 |
Hugh, The thing that comes to mind about forward luggage is the lobster claw look of the 1125 bikes that doomed it from the start. But if it looked presentable then I'd say, "why not". | ||
| Froggy |
I'll give you guys one guess who patented this storage system in 1993   | ||
| Hughlysses |
Cool! | ||
| Court |
Looks like good old 5303795. . . . . . Should have seen what almost happened . . . . a fitting tribute to where good theory, sound engineering and aesthetics collide. | ||
| Biffdotorg |
Don't the 1125 series have slipper clutches of some sort? I guess that may spoil me on easy shifting. I do remember when I crushed my hand in 2007, I had a 2004 12s. I used to go into the garage to pull my clutch lever as therapy! It was a hard pull. The clutch on my XT is smooth! There is something to the comment of having the clutch and chain in adjustment. Both have effected the shifting in the past. |
