| Author | Message | ||
     Andymnelson |
Alrighty, so stator replacement time for me! Has anyone successfully sourced an aftermarket one?? Accel makes a bunch of units, most are 2 phase, but they have a few 3 phase. This looks possible: http://store.prestoliteperformance.com/catalog/pro duct/view/id/7189/s/stator-38a-3phs-rpl-30017-01/c ategory/1107/ It's about 1/2 price of a Buell stator and it's sure to be of higher quality... Your thoughts? | ||
| Nobuell |
Accel has a number of different stators listed, some with 50 amp ratings and some that are molded construction. A better after market stator would be interesting. I do not know how one would cross reference to a model that would fit. | ||
| Froggy |
Sending your burnt out stock stator to Custom Rewind is a popular option on the 1125board. A little over a hundred bucks and in a few days you get it back better than new. | ||
| Andymnelson |
yeah I talked to a local shop about rewinding mine today- $150....whic is $8 more than retail on a new one! Even if I find a place to ship it to for $100, I'd have $10 in shipping in, and a 10% discount on a new one is only $128... I dunno, if there was a long wait for one or if I saved like $75 then that would seem like a good idea. | ||
| Whisperstealth |
Andy, Sending it to Custom Rewind would do a couple of things for a little less money. 1. The work will be "hand" done here in America, keeping the money here, and putting the money in the pocket of Americans(hopefully) 2. You won't be buying a new part likely made in China 3. American Customs is likely to stand behind their work, and not give you the finger, they way others might. My, bad. Accel stators are made in the US. I decided to check after I had posted.... Still think CR should be considered. (Message edited by whisperstealth on May 31, 2011) | ||
| Andymnelson |
yeah that's actually one of the reasons I liked the idea of sourcing one from them. I'm going to call both Accel and Custom Rewind tomorrow- it would be great to save a few bucks, and also source an American made product! | ||
| Natexlh1000 |
Make sure your stock regulator can handle the extra juice. Remember that the regulator dumps excess juice to ground. Not like a car (or my ironhead) that changes the field strength to alter the output. The permanent magnets are.... permanent. That means that they are running full tilt all the time. Also, it means if you use more electrical stuff, your regulator emits less heat. Weird eh? If you get some sort of heroic stator, you would be better suited to buy a heroic regulator to match. I remember Accell was selling a charging system for sporties with a regulator that was in series with the load. I always wondered if that was any good. Sounds like a good idea anyways. | ||
| Andymnelson |
yeah, I'm not looking for a higher output- 38 amp is the same as stock...but good points. | ||
| Froggy |
The things I'd do for an extra 10 amps, my bike is begging for mercy at idle....  | ||
| Whisperstealth |
Froggy, is that a Motorcycle, or a jet cockpit? What are the two on top? I'm guessing one is a radar detector... | ||
| Mnviking |
Wow. I always thought riding was an opportunity to unplug from the rest of my life. | ||
| Towpro |
While were showing off cockpits   | ||
| Ratbuell |
and it's sure to be of higher quality... Just wondering where that statement came from...if we were talking 1125 stators, that'd be one thing, but it's an XB. They're pretty damned bulletproof, bone-stock. I love how people always assume "it's original equipment, so it's gotta suck, aftermarket HAS to be better".... | ||
| Andymnelson |
That's not all my assumption, nor did I imply it. But there is a high number of failures in the 20,000 to 25,000 mile range- I've NEVER had a bike have a stator failure before Buell, certainly not with so few miles on it. There's something not right about the OEM one, that's all. And add to that the fact that's the OEM one is about double the cost of most aftermarket ones....what makes most sense to you, assuming we can source an aftermarket one?? | ||
| Ratbuell |
I guess I'm lucky then...24k on the Uly and 28k on the S2 so far...no issues other than a 77 connector on the Uly, and a VR on the S2. Sorry if I mis-read your post... | ||
| Andymnelson |
it's all good, the interwebs are hard to communicate emotion/inflection  I think that the amount of stator failures in that range of miles is highly abnormal, whatever the cause... | ||
| Ratbuell |
Another factor is...what fluid is being used? I know a lot of stator failures on Buells and on HD's stem from (ahem..."seem to occur on bike that are") using non-OEM oils, not rated for this particular application. And that's the ex-dealer-employee in me speaking. I saw most of 'em coming in the service door, and most of them went aftermarket for fluid before the stator failed. Not nearly as many failures on bikes running HD oil or Syn3. | ||
| Rwven |
I run Formula + in my primary. I had stator failures on my previous bike and I don't want that experience again. | ||
| Froggy |
Cause HD/Buell has a fantastic track record with stock bearings, isolators, mufflers, wiring harnesses, dunflop tires, kickstands, headlights, and a dozen other items | ||
| Ronmold |
Isn't a large segment of the aftermarket parts business driven by the need for better parts because the OEM ones they're replacing have a reputation for failure or are inadequate for uses such as racing? I would then assume that an aftermarket part, other than for cosmetic reasons (now available in chrome!), is an improvement to an OEM design, whether in functionality or longevity. | ||
| Phaedrus91 |
Question.. has anyone here popped in an Accel stator (the one from the link)Accel part number 152111.. I am in need of a stator and would really like to grab one on Amazon for 80 bucks instead of going to the stealership... | ||
| Rapuckett55 |
Sorry to bring up an old topic, but I am in need of a Stator on my 2006 Uly. Has anyone tried this? Thanks. | ||
| Rapuckett55 |
I know this is an old thread, but I'm curious if anyone has tried this. I am in need of a stator and wouldn't mind saving some money. Plus not having to worry about clearance issues with the stock Harley part. Thanks Ralph | ||
| Staticsparke46 |
It's amazing. How good the stators are. When this question continues to be brought back into discussion over the years. I just wanted to add. These are some issues I had with the Electrical system in my 2 years of owning a 07 uly. 1) If you go with a lithium battery and you accidently somehow drain that battery and get jumped off. } Do not disconnect from the charging vehicle until a few minutes after you have connected. Better off connecting to the host vehicle and just leaving your bike off until the voltage on the lithium has nearly matched the charging voltage. Those little light weight batteries hold a fuxxton of amps and they can dump them or pull them very quickly. I can attach a 20v 8hr lithium to a dead noco nlp14 400cca battery, separate from the bike with 12awg solid copper jumpers. And my Noco will be fully charged in 3 mins then the bms kicks in to stop the charge at 14.8vdc,the wires will be smoking and hot AF and the dewalt 20v will be very disappointed in you. But that's just to put in perspective the power that a lithium is willing to suck specifically to match the voltage of a electrical charging system. So that is gonna tax tf out of your windings if they are less than 14ga even then. So just don't ask your poor stator to deliver that much and charge the battey separate from the bike then return it. 2)LED lights. so if you have a 38 amp stator that is permanent. Like all stock uly's do. Then it's going to be generating ac voltage at 38 amps pretty much constantly. That left over energy is converted to heat. A hell of a lot of heat. Unless you are using that 38 amps. The headlights are constantly running. That in turn pulls a fair amount of the energy. As well as the other incandescent lights on the vehicle. If you are like me and want to be as efficient and lean as possible on power consumption then you may switch to LED lights. If you do this. You are going to tax both the regulator and the stator as they have all this extra energy and are unable to use it so they have to burn it off as heat. Typically to ground. This is going to cause the stator windings to over heat and burn of the enamel coating that protects them from grounding out. As well as the regulator being ready to fry a egg. Its not good for anything to get that hot if you don't plan to eat it or fxxx it so I recommend keeping the regulator incandescent lights or when you change the stator and you will. Remember to go to a lower amperage by calculating the maximum amps of all running equipment and purchasing one of the Harley Sportster or big twin stators that are only 12 to 19amps 3phase. Whichever matches. Or completely overhaul the charging system to a system that allows for the magnetic field to be regulated. Which is gonna make your wallet slap you if you don't just put the damn incandescents back in and add on a couple aux leds to burn the opposing drivers eyes out of socket. 3) make sure you don't have a parasitic bleed in the system if you don't know what that is I recommend you Google it. 4) make sure you are not grounding out anywhere that is just enough not to blow the fuse. Cause that will drain the battery then the stator will have to pay the taxes on all that energy being fed into the chassis. This is just my experience with the lovely uly's mine is my only vehicle until I start back work. I front flipped it and crushed my left clavicle and broke my right. As well as some nasty cuff injuries as well. Put me out of work for 6 months. Thanks to having quit a previous company and being 66 days into the 90day probationary window with the new company I was ineligible for any assistance when the new company fired my butt the morning I returned to work after being in the hospital that entire night to let them know I had to see a specialist the next day and needed a day off. I been through hell since. Electrician by trade. Can't even put in a lightbulb anymore cause I can't lift my damn arms above my head. So, after several failed attempts at employment since being cleared. I finally got a job I can actually do. And it's nearly 40mi from home. 12 hrs shifts. At night. And my only ride ole uly has burnt another stator. So after a little research this is the reasoning for my stator malfunctions and I felt like sharing with you all my discoveries. I'm attempting to rewrap my stator tonight to keep her running just long enough to order the needed parts stator, rotor, clutch pack. To keep her back running reliably until I start on the 28th and I cannot risk missing and fxxxing up this opportunity. When I say broke I mean i have had no point in looking into my bank account in months. That's why I'm trying to rewrap and coat/varnish some stripped thhn i got laying around until i have something to buy the parts. Having a license in SC is the hardest part of living in SC. } |
