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Pullmesideways
Posted on Friday, September 18, 2009 - 08:20 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Ok so I just got my Zumo 550 and I decided to wake up early this moring to hard wire it to the Uly.

My plan was a simple one, Remove the flyscreen, funnel the wire and then connect the red and black Zumo wires to the 12 volt outlet wiring harness on the Uly.

I matched the red Zumo wire with the orange Uly wire and the Black Zumo wire to the black and yellow Uly wire.

Well nothing happened. I have power still going to the outlet.

I even decided to switch up my wiring just in case. Still no power to the zumo.

The fuse is in tact.

The Zumo powers up in my car.

Can anyone shed any light onto my potential issue here.

I feel like a two year old could accomplish this task which is giving me so much grief!
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Andrejs2112
Posted on Friday, September 18, 2009 - 09:03 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Are you testing with the ignition on? My '06 12v outlet is only on with the key. Is the zumo using a cigarette plug adapter? If so, did you cut the cig adapter off and try wiring it in? You can't do it that way if you tried.
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Court
Posted on Friday, September 18, 2009 - 09:21 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

>>>Are you testing with the ignition on?

AND . . the kill switch on the right handlebar must be in the "RUN" position.
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Petereid
Posted on Friday, September 18, 2009 - 10:13 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I feel like a two year old could accomplish this task

Problem is there is never a two year old around when you need one : )
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Pullmesideways
Posted on Friday, September 18, 2009 - 10:16 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Yep it is in the run position with the bike powered up.
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Myzen
Posted on Friday, September 18, 2009 - 10:19 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

have you tried starting the bike to see if it powers up? Also is your battery at full charge? I ran into a similar issue when the voltage of the battery was low. Hooked up power tender and all was fine.
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Ratbuell
Posted on Friday, September 18, 2009 - 10:46 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Are you using a motorcycle install kit?

The Garmin brand runs on 5 or 5.2v DC, NOT 12v. Unless you have a motorcycle cradle setup (which has the voltage regulator built into the cradle), with the correct motorcycle wiring harness, it will not work.

You can NOT lop off a cigarette lighter plug, and hardwire the wires into the vehicle. The lighter plug (for car use) has the voltage regulator (and speaker) built into it, at least it does on my Quest II - and looking on garmin.com the Zumo is the same way. The wires that come out are running the 5v, not 12v.

The only other question is...how did you connect the wiring? I always solder my connections. Strip a small section of the vehicle wires without cutting them. Strip the end of your accessory wire about 1/2". WRAP it around the stripped section of the vehicle wires, like a coil spring. Solder the connection, and wrap with insulation (tape with a zip tie usually works for me).
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Pullmesideways
Posted on Friday, September 18, 2009 - 11:18 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I do have the motorcycle cradle dock.

It was wired with simple copper connectors which I will heat shrink once I can get it to work
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Ratbuell
Posted on Friday, September 18, 2009 - 11:22 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

If you have a voltmeter, check for voltage at the cradle end of the wire. Unplug it from the cradle and test. If you have power at that end of the wire..you have a bad cradle. If you don't have power at that end of the wire, you have a bad connection to the bike.

(Message edited by ratbuell on September 18, 2009)
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Pullmesideways
Posted on Friday, September 18, 2009 - 11:41 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Well I always wanted a voltage meter, I guess I know what I will buy after work.
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Maximum
Posted on Friday, September 18, 2009 - 11:43 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

It should be a no-brainer...so it could be that you have a bad motorcycle cradle.
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Ratbuell
Posted on Friday, September 18, 2009 - 11:44 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

It's never a bad day if you get to buy more tools : )
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Wbrisett
Posted on Friday, September 18, 2009 - 11:59 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

It's never a bad day if you get to buy more tools

Exactly! And that's what I told myself last weekend when I finally spent the money and bought a set of tool cabinets. : )

I can finally get my garage organized so I can tear apart my bikes without having to spend 15 minutes looking for the right tool.

Wayne
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Froggy
Posted on Friday, September 18, 2009 - 05:25 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

It could be a bad cradle, mine died about a year ago out of the blue in the middle of the second day of Headless Horseman Run. Garmin sent me a warranty replacement no questions asked.
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Court
Posted on Friday, September 18, 2009 - 08:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Garmin is GREAT about warranty stuff!

I keep a spare cradle in the bike with me . . just in case it's damaged. The cradle isn't too much.
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Pullmesideways
Posted on Friday, September 18, 2009 - 09:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Well, thankfully I got my Garmin at my local H-D/Buell Dealer (Bumpus Murfreesboro). The cradle was fine but the wire with the fuse was flawed.

The P&A department hooked me up with a new wire and now my Garmin is powering up with no issues.

Thanks so much for everyone's input.
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Ratbuell
Posted on Saturday, September 19, 2009 - 09:18 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

...the industry still needs to figure out how to harness that wireless electricity....

Glad you got it sorted : )
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Froggy
Posted on Saturday, September 19, 2009 - 01:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Rat - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ECuwfhFlj8U
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