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Ulywife
Posted on Wednesday, March 11, 2009 - 01:48 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

From Jlnance:

- Charging system. Affects 06-07
The connector where the voltage regulator plugs into the electrical system sometimes melts. This is due to the contacts corroding and increasing the resistance of the connector. It has been found that filling the connector with dielectric grease will prevent this from occurring. More info here. 1 Adding some sort of charging indicator (voltage meter) is also prudent.




(Message edited by Ulywife on March 11, 2009)
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Hughlysses
Posted on Tuesday, March 10, 2009 - 01:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Charging system. Affects 06-07

The connector where the voltage regulator plugs into the electrical system sometimes melts. This is due to the contacts corroding and increasing the resistance of the connector. It has been found that filling the connector with dielectric grease will prevent this from occurring.


Ahh, the infamous "77" connector. All you need to know can be found here (it takes more than just dielectric grease):
http://docs.google.com/view?docid=d4rbxwr_20dq5khf
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Rwven
Posted on Tuesday, March 10, 2009 - 01:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Electrical Grounds
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Hughlysses
Posted on Tuesday, March 10, 2009 - 03:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Kathleen- If you haven't already, install an LED voltmeter. That way you know if you have an electrical problem LONG before the bike strands you on the side of the road.

Jim- That's a hint that would well be worth mentioning. I can't think of any better mod for the money (~$35) for a Uly than adding a voltmeter.
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Hughlysses
Posted on Tuesday, March 10, 2009 - 08:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Hughlysses I bought one just haven't installed it yet!

K- Don't do what I did. Buy LED voltmeter from American Sport Bike, procrastinate putting it on, then lose it. A couple of weeks later, bike dies ~50 miles into 350 mile trip to N GA mountains for vacation. Got bike back home, figured out problem with 77 connector, sympathetic nearby Badwebber gave me a voltmeter he'd bought. I installed it and watched it like a hawk for the next week. 9 months and ~4000 miles later, no further electrical problems.
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Froggy
Posted on Tuesday, March 10, 2009 - 08:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Voltmeter is great, mine was acting wacky, so I checked my connector and turns out it was starting to melt. Dealer fixed it and its been fine ever since : )
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Mnrider
Posted on Tuesday, March 10, 2009 - 08:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)




I got this one at an auto parts store and wired it to the front 12V outlet.
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Gs750t
Posted on Saturday, March 14, 2009 - 08:38 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

This works for me. Kuryakin, I think.
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Hughlysses
Posted on Tuesday, March 24, 2009 - 12:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Hey- here's an interesting piece of info. A poster in the XB forum says that if you buy a new voltage regulator for your 06/07 XB, it comes with a new type connector on the VR wiring harness, plus a replacement connector for the bike's wiring harness that you have to install.

See post here: http://www.badweatherbikers.com/cgibin/discus/show.cgi?tpc=32777&post=1412233#POST1412233

I guess the factory decided the connector was a problem. I've asked him to post a photo of the new connector so we can see what it looks like. It's good that they've upgraded it, but this also means a new voltage regulator will not quite be "plug and play". It'll be a little more work to replace it.

(Message edited by hughlysses on March 24, 2009)
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Pso
Posted on Sunday, March 29, 2009 - 12:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I went to the dealer and got a print out of the new connector. It is for two wires in and I thought our #77 had three wires. Anyone know anything more.
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Mnrider
Posted on Sunday, March 29, 2009 - 12:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The 77 is two wires.
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Lousirider
Posted on Friday, May 08, 2009 - 11:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I just ordered the LED voltmeter from American Sport Bike. Any advice on how to install? Pictures?
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Rays
Posted on Saturday, May 09, 2009 - 07:02 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

This has been updated to include a picture of the updated '77' connector & regulator (+ part numbers).

http://docs.google.com/View?docid=d4rbxwr_20dq5khf &pageview=1&hgd=1&hl=en
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Pso
Posted on Saturday, May 09, 2009 - 10:32 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Last weekend I looked at my replaced VR and connectors from last years failure. The plug was already looking bad. I just went to Auto store and purchased heat shrink crimps and crimped the wires together and then used liquied tape to make sure they were sealed. My GPs and also radar detector, which both have numeric voltage meters, read a higher voltage after completing the graft. I decided to go this route because I have a spare VR that I had purchased as a take along for peace of mind on long trips. I marked the wire that will connect with the red, cut off the connector and put heat shrink crimps on the ends. Now I can just crimp the new regulator onto my Uly if need be or if fiance's Scg #77 plug goes up I can also swap out with the new VR on her bike. Very easy, also I did not need to purchase another new set of connectors for the old VR style or for her Scg. Seems like I saved over $40 bucks and also the procudere that I used is very direct and if needed on roadside repaire for Scg will be easy to do.
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Txb12x
Posted on Thursday, June 11, 2009 - 03:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I'm the new owner of a clean, low mileage '06 XB12X. Took all of about 15 min to check #77, apply dielectric compound and put everything back together. No pitting or signs of an overheated connection. You guys make it easy! Thank you!
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