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Johnboy777
Posted on Tuesday, February 10, 2009 - 06:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Thought I'd post a few pictures of my auxiliary brake light set up that I just completed and mocked up on the bike.

The idea is to now add the Back-Off XP brake light flasher (4 quick flashes then steady on) to the auxiliary brake light.

Xbimmer was kind enough to get me the info on this brake light which he is using as well, IIRC. This is an LED brake light
designed for a big rig that I purchased from these guys... (Item 5050 R):
http://www.led-r-us.com/sttlights.shtml

In person, the auxiliary brake light is actually much brighter than the stock brake light ... especially from a distance.

EDIT:
You'll notice I didn't even cover up my license plate ... yeah, I like to live dangerously!
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Brake Light & Auxiliary Brake Light - OFF (natural light)


Brake Light & Auxiliary Brake Light - ON (natural light/ flash off)


Brake Light & Auxiliary Brake Light - ON (flash on)


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(Message edited by johnboy777 on February 10, 2009)
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Hangontight
Posted on Tuesday, February 10, 2009 - 07:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

where might a guy find that Back-Off flasher deal for the brake light? I'm not interested in the extra light (nice job though) but I'd like to hook up one of those flashing brake light deals....would it work on the stock LED brake light on a Uly? Thanks.
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Johnboy777
Posted on Tuesday, February 10, 2009 - 07:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Here's a similar one for $20 that I plan to order, as well. Check out the video on the link.
LINK:
http://www.3rdbrakeflasher.com/index.php?main_page =product_info&cPath=65&products_id=181



Here's the Back Off XP, which works with LED lights as well as std. lights.
http://www.signaldynamics.com/products/Modules/xp. asp

BTW, My Back Off XP failed to work properly so I returned it to Signal Dynamics ... we'll see how it works when I get the new one back. FWIW, in the past, I've heard nothing but good things about the Back Off on ADVrider.

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Werewulf
Posted on Tuesday, February 10, 2009 - 08:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

i put this light on my uly. http://www.badweatherbikers.com/buell/messages/327 77/359807.html .. fits perfect in place of tag light. looks almost factory...

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Johnboy777
Posted on Wednesday, February 11, 2009 - 01:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Hey Werewulf,

I think the Whelen lights, like you have, are about the best available LED's out there... my concern was that they might be too bright stopped in traffic at night with a steady burn.

Here's a great thread:

http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=19 9827

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Rocketsprink
Posted on Wednesday, February 11, 2009 - 02:54 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

jonboy. does the light mount directly, or did you have to fab a bracket?
Thanks.
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Werewulf
Posted on Wednesday, February 11, 2009 - 03:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

yep, they are way too bright on a steady burn... i have mine just to flash with the brake..
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Court
Posted on Wednesday, February 11, 2009 - 03:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Make, model?

That looks quite trick.
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Werewulf
Posted on Wednesday, February 11, 2009 - 04:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

i tried to post a pic of the one on my uly, but the file is too large to upload...
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Johnboy777
Posted on Wednesday, February 11, 2009 - 05:30 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

""jonboy. does the light mount directly, or did you have to fab a bracket?
Thanks.""

The bracket was fabricated using a small piece of 20gauge stainless steel sheet - I still need to trim it up.
The light itself ($20.00) is "Item number 5050 R - Stop, Turn, Tail, Surface Mounted Water Proof LED".... from these guys:
http://www.led-r-us.com/sttlights.shtml


Here's the bracket with the light installed


And from behind


Then mounted to the three holes where the rear
reflector was mounted


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Tipsymcstagger
Posted on Wednesday, February 11, 2009 - 08:50 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

i tried to post a pic of the one on my uly, but the file is too large to upload...

Werewulf, go to this page and install the "Image Resizer."

Once installed, you just right-click on your photo and you'll have several resizing options. The file size will be much more upload friendly.

Tipsy

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Johnboy777
Posted on Thursday, February 12, 2009 - 08:13 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Here's another option - Strobes n' More Nova LEDs

LINK:
http://www.strobesnmore.com/led-lights_body-mount.html



Whelen TIR3


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Glenn
Posted on Saturday, February 21, 2009 - 06:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Johnboy,

I ordered one of the lights but can't seem to find any stainless sheet in any of the usual retail stores. Where did you get yours?

I like your setup!
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Johnboy777
Posted on Saturday, February 21, 2009 - 06:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

""Johnboy,

I ordered one of the lights but can't seem to find any stainless sheet in any of the usual retail stores. Where did you get yours?

I like your setup!""



Hey Glenn,

As luck would have it, I decided to go another direction with my auxiliary brake light (I plan to build a new bracket and mount it higher up w/ a top case) ... if you want the bracket as pictured, PM me and I'll send it to you, N/C.

However, you can purchase a 20ga. (0.036") stainless sheet, similar to what I used, here......LINK:
http://www.onlinemetals.com/merchant.cfm?pid=716&s tep=4&showunits=inches&id=30&top_cat=1

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Dana
Posted on Saturday, February 21, 2009 - 09:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

If you have a boat store near you they are a great place to get stainless steel hardware. I use West Marine here in Maryland.
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Court
Posted on Saturday, February 21, 2009 - 10:08 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I'm loving those Whelan TIR3 LEDs. I ordered a pair that I am going to mount on the rear of the Ulysses with the brake lights.
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Glenn
Posted on Sunday, February 22, 2009 - 07:35 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Thanks Johnboy!!

Also good links and hadn't thought about a Marine supply store.
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F_skinner
Posted on Tuesday, February 24, 2009 - 10:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

After talking to another Uly rider today I noticed that I cannot see the brake light standing about 3 to 4 feet behind the bike due to the large Outdoorsman top case.

Thanks for the thread Johnboy. I am going to mount to the bottom of the license plate bracket. The way people drive in Colorado there is always someone right on your tail. It will help in the city as well. If a 18 wheeler was behind me I wonder how far back he would have to be to see the brake light?

Unlike other mods to the Uly this should be easy. I bet I can make it hard.

Frank
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Choyashi
Posted on Tuesday, February 24, 2009 - 11:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

http://cgi.ebay.com/REARALERT-BRAKE-LIGHT-FLASHER- STOP-LAMP-BLINKER-MODULE_W0QQitemZ300269401902QQcm dZViewItemQQptZMotors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories? hash=item300269401902&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkpar ms=72%3A1171%7C66%3A2%7C65%3A12%7C39%3A1%7C240%3A1 318%7C301%3A0%7C293%3A1%7C294%3A50
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Tginnh
Posted on Wednesday, February 25, 2009 - 08:16 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Craig - thanks for the link. I assume you have purchased and installed this unit and it works to your satisfaction?

Thanks.
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Court
Posted on Wednesday, February 25, 2009 - 09:43 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

My Whelen TIR3 arrived yesterday and it's a well made looking device.

I was looking at mounting it dead center on the bag but really like the below the license plate option. I just need to come up with one of those plates. What gauge Aluminum did you use?

I also got the "tool tubes" and am going to try mounting them on both sides. One side will get an EMERGENCY KIT with thermal blanket, first aid, flares and so forth. The other side will be tools, spare batteries and crud that typically always stays on the bike somewhere. I am hoping to be able to orient them like the ones I've seen here and am planning to coat the lids (which will be rear facing) with 3M Super Reflective tape. I'm also going to cover all the exposed flat surfaces on the back of the bike and bags with reflective material. Call me a big chicken.
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Aeholton
Posted on Wednesday, February 25, 2009 - 11:01 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Craig, thanks for the link. Just ordered.
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Johnboy777
Posted on Wednesday, February 25, 2009 - 11:04 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Hey Court,

The TIR3 is smaller than the LED I was using ... maybe it will fit on the stock rear marker bracket, somehow - if you just loosen the 3 bolts, you can pull it all the way down and see.

Just a thought - that rear metal bracket is pretty heavy duty.

John
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Ratbuell
Posted on Wednesday, February 25, 2009 - 11:30 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Court - you could always order the XP response kit, it's chock-full of TIR3's : ) If the CR mirrors hadn't worked out as well as they did, I would have ordered at least the handguard/light combos for my turn signals...but the mirrors are working awesome.

Just a word about the TIR3, though - they don't particularly like steady-on, so set them to flash if you can. They'll annoy the hell out of whoever is behind you at a light, but steady-on makes some serious heat.

I just finished disassembling a Federal Signal Cuda Tri-Optic response light, and turned 2 out of the 3 pieces (3 LEDs each, with a fresnel lens) into rear turn signals. Talk about annoying the person behind you! But, I'd rather that, than "I didn't know he was changing lanes". And they balance the bike well with the CR LED mirrors (and one of American Sport Bike's flasher units).

And Court - nothing chicken about reflective stuff. I have strips of DOT trailer tape (conspicuity tape?) on my top case support, the side bag supports where that flat spot is, inside the "taillight" on the topcase (it doesn't light up, it might as well reflect...), a red strip around the bottom / back of each of my helmets, and white reflective around the visor opening of each helmet. I haven't leapt into hi-vis gear...yet...
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Court
Posted on Wednesday, February 25, 2009 - 11:35 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I've got an Aerostich Hi-Viz jacket I use occasionally but I always keep some spare 3M tape on the bike. Even places where it does not adhere well and plastered some on if I am riding the highway at night.

>>>... maybe it will fit on the stock rear marker bracket

I'll bet you are right. We'll see. I have no intention of having them steady. I want them to get noticed on braking.

I've got most the response kit and may use the siren switch as the "change flash pattern" 12v feed. That work?
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Ratbuell
Posted on Wednesday, February 25, 2009 - 11:37 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Yep. The change-pattern signal is just a momentary short to ground. I think there's also a pattern programmed in there that will auto-rotate through all the patterns, then repeat. If there's six distinct patterns in the light, then number 7 will be the rotation setting.
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Ratbuell
Posted on Wednesday, February 25, 2009 - 11:38 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I think it's a short to ground. Might be a short to hot though...
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Johnboy777
Posted on Wednesday, February 25, 2009 - 11:47 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Here's the idea I was talking about. This is an LED
side marker light for a tractor trailer that
I purchased at a local truck stop, then mounted
it to the rear marker bracket.

I think the Whelen TIR3 Super LED is about the same size, maybe smaller.

Mounted to the Bracket


Installed on the Bike


With the License Plate Mounted (it can even be moved up
a little closer to the plate)




(Message edited by johnboy777 on February 25, 2009)
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Court
Posted on Wednesday, February 25, 2009 - 12:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Thanks! . . . I think it will work perfectly. I also like the idea of being able to change patterns while in traffic. . the folks behind me will never know what to expect!

: )
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Xbimmer
Posted on Wednesday, February 25, 2009 - 09:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Not a real good pic but this is how I mounted mine:


Aux Brake/tail Light


Aluminum sheet cut to fit, I wasn't real pleased with the final result since the license plate light is basically holding it on, but enough support is gained from the license plate mounted against the bottom to eliminate any vibration. Works great, like Johnboy said it's brighter than the stocker.

I originally had it wired to my BackOff, each brake light to one of two modes on the BackOff. Quite a light show with two brake lights flashing two different sequences! That might have fried the BackOff though, after a while it up and died...

More lights in back is always better, I've been rear ended on bikes twice at stop signs. Some people are idiots...
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F_skinner
Posted on Wednesday, February 25, 2009 - 09:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Xbimmer, looks great. I was going to mount under the plate but I liked the way you did it. Thanks for the pics and write up. Frank
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Prior
Posted on Monday, August 27, 2012 - 02:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Digging up an old thread, but wondering how the solutions above have lasted over the past few years. I'm ready to do something for more illumination in the back, but not real sure what direction I want to go...
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