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Bombardier
Posted on Tuesday, July 29, 2008 - 09:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Cracks me up!

It never ceases to amaze me how much people bitch about being caught out doing the wrong thing!

It is like they have an Oh Shit valve that opens.

The sad thing is that the ones that bitch the most are the first to call the police when they are in trouble.

The police are the most underpaid, unrecognised and under-appreciated people in uniform anywhere.

To do what they do and see what they see and still manage a smile is a miracle in itself.

I wish I could be as selfless.
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Tramp
Posted on Tuesday, July 29, 2008 - 09:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

"The sad thing is that the ones that bitch the most are the first to call the police when they are in trouble. "



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Spiderman
Posted on Tuesday, July 29, 2008 - 09:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I can point to countless times I have suffered from being one

Ok start the list...

The first thing you should have learned in HS English was, If you have an argument support it with facts...
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Tramp
Posted on Tuesday, July 29, 2008 - 09:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

If being a "biker" is such a deep source of suffering, give it up...

and cancel that subscription to "Easyriders" magazine...and lose the engineer's boots and the chain wallet....
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Teddagreek
Posted on Tuesday, July 29, 2008 - 11:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Why is the Cop making out with the little boy...

EX Priest?
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Mmmi_grad
Posted on Wednesday, July 30, 2008 - 01:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

You dont have to do anything wrong, thats what happened to me. Its ok though. I know im in the right. I wont warn anyone again about this.
http://overstated.net/2005/01/31/nyc-bicycle-abuse

Heres a guy who just doesnt like Bikers.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8I653Q7I0x8

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Ft_bstrd
Posted on Wednesday, July 30, 2008 - 01:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

You have to have a permit to gather in large groups particularly when you will be blocking and disrupting traffic.

They are correct in arresting you if you are expected to gather illegally.

It's not the act itself but the coordination of separate acts in order to disrupt.

Sitting isn't a crime. 300 people sitting in front of the entrance of a building is.
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Greenlantern
Posted on Wednesday, July 30, 2008 - 01:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The first thing you should have learned in HS English was, If you have an argument support it with facts...

Never land a job with Fox using that advice.
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Greenlantern
Posted on Wednesday, July 30, 2008 - 01:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Driving:

a) Privilege

b) Right

c) A practice in Golf

d) Describing a good date

e) all except b
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Tramp
Posted on Wednesday, July 30, 2008 - 05:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

"You have to have a permit to gather in large groups particularly when you will be blocking and disrupting traffic. "

That is not an accurate statement
Parade and assembly laws vary greatly from state-to-state.
when a group of HOG guys is pulling out of a bar, and one holds up traffic while the rest take off, this is a permissible act in NY, California & NJ with no permit association
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Spiderman
Posted on Wednesday, July 30, 2008 - 07:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

You dont have to do anything wrong, thats what happened to me. Its ok though. I know im in the right. I wont warn anyone again about this.


Guess they shoulda got radar detectors...

Ohhhh the're Bicyclist!

Still waiting on your list Oh persicuted one ; )
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Teddagreek
Posted on Wednesday, July 30, 2008 - 08:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Where I live you and you have a sport bike you are a target period, When I commute I sport the Radar..


I can't stand the cruiser double standard, I can have loud pipes, I can be Illegal as far as lights, mirrors, plates etc...

Speed & Drive like and Ass and nobody even looks..


I've had some really things said and done to me while pulled over.

I've been handcuffed and Illegally detained, had my vehicle Illegally searched after I declined to a search, Been cursed at and belittled..

I even had a officer get in my face and tried to goade me into "doing Something" after I very respectfully questioned his facts..

The topper I had a officer draw his taser and I respectfully asked him to draw pistol instead because of my minor heart condition. His Reply, I don't care stay where you are...

I attribute a lot of this to being at the wrong place at the wrong time & with the wrong people..

Despite all this crap I kept my cool was respectful and never got arrested or ticketed.


I've been pulled over and let go quite few times and the few tickets I have got my adult life the cops where cool..

The few F**K it up for rest...

Unfortunately bad experiences stick with us much longer than good ones.. Its just how we are wired.
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Mmmi_grad
Posted on Thursday, July 31, 2008 - 11:19 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

DITTO

http://www.noob.us/miscellaneous/cop-lies-and-threatens-kid-for-nothing/



(Message edited by mmmi_grad on July 31, 2008)
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Rick_a
Posted on Thursday, July 31, 2008 - 01:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I generally get a couple tickets a year. I have never been pulled over for nothing. I have, however, been unnecessarily hassled a few times. On one occasion this fat bastard claimed I was running and threatened to confiscate my bike and put me in jail. I just stayed quiet and eventually he stopped talking smack. Other officers showed up while I was being written up and hassled and rolled their eyes as he spoke.

The times I've been busted being truly unruly and let go kinda make up for it, though, I guess.

Backroads are your friend.
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Doughnut
Posted on Thursday, July 31, 2008 - 02:54 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Wow, thank you. I never realized I had taken the job because deep down I wanted to make life hard for people that I don't know and have never met. I guess the risk of being hit, stabbed, or shot is well worth the satisfaction I will get from pulling someone over for "no reason".

Please guy, take it easy. I have only ever met one school bus driver and he was a real jag. I don't hold that against every school bus driver. You do realize that police are people, right? And as such, we are not all the same. Take ca(r)e, be safe.



(Message edited by Doughnut on July 31, 2008)
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Greenlantern
Posted on Thursday, July 31, 2008 - 02:57 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Wow, thank you. I never realized I had taken the job because deep down I wanted to make life hard for people that I don't know and have never met.


Well now you know! please come back, we are just full of shocking revelations here!
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Tramp
Posted on Thursday, July 31, 2008 - 05:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

"Wow, thank you. I never realized I had taken the job because deep down I wanted to make life hard for people that I don't know and have never met. I guess the risk of being hit, stabbed, or shot is well worth the satisfaction I will get from pulling someone over for "no reason". "

well-said.
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Mmmi_grad
Posted on Thursday, July 31, 2008 - 10:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

None of the revelations here are shocking or old. Just facts no one likes to hear period


(Message edited by mmmi_grad on July 31, 2008)
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Bombardier
Posted on Thursday, July 31, 2008 - 10:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Oh horseshit!!!!!

There is good and bad in everyone.

The only difference is that cos the Police have a uniform they are tarred with the same brush because of the small amount of assholes.

Imagine if everyone who was a bigot, a rapist, an irratic driver, a paedophile etc had to have there problem listed in large letters on their orange jumpsuits they had to wear 'cos they did not fit the 'normal' stereotype. Would be pretty easy to mouth off at them and point the finger now wouldn't it?

When you get to deal with druggies, wife bashers, child molesters, petty theives and all other nature of people you too would probably take exception to some smartass telling you that you do not know what you are talking about or which protective weapon to use etc.

Wake up Dude!
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Teddagreek
Posted on Friday, August 01, 2008 - 12:36 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Whatever..

You weren't there...

Don't Imply I'm some Cocky Smart Mouth...


I'm sorry Tasers are a killer for people with certain medical conditions, So people with Heart Conditions, Epileptics and others should just shut our mouths...


Just because you deal with sh*tty people all day it gives you the right or excuse to be a Douche Canoe..


Its called being professional as an officer you are held to higher standards, just as I was in the Marine Corps.
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Ft_bstrd
Posted on Friday, August 01, 2008 - 12:52 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

That is not an accurate statement
Parade and assembly laws vary greatly from state-to-state.
when a group of HOG guys is pulling out of a bar, and one holds up traffic while the rest take off, this is a permissible act in NY, California & NJ with no permit association


Your statement is an inaccurate statement.

In the context of the story about bicycles in NYC, Chapter 1, Section 10-110 states the following:


"Section 10-110 of the New York City Administrative Code, enacted by the City Council, requires that a permit be obtained from the Police Commissioner before a “parade” can take place “upon any street or in any public place.”

The resulting parade regulations, adopted by the NYPD in January, broadly define “parade” as any “recognizable group” of “50 or more pedestrians, vehicles or bicycles" that “procee together upon any public street or roadway.”


Per THIS law, the police were correct in detaining anyone suspected of being part of a "parade" without a permit.

You "HOG" group is irrelevant to this discussion.
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Mr_gto
Posted on Friday, August 01, 2008 - 01:08 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

"When you get to deal with druggies, wife bashers, child molesters, petty theives and all other nature of people you too would probably take exception to some smartass telling you that you do not know what you are talking about or which protective weapon to use etc."


So i can be a ass to everybody cause i deal with bad people, thats a pretty lame excuse.
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Bombardier
Posted on Friday, August 01, 2008 - 05:10 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

You expect the officers to be totally devoid of any human traits when dealing with the "others" but are real happy to bash them when dealing with you.

Have a think about it.

Put yourself in their shoes.
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Tramp
Posted on Friday, August 01, 2008 - 07:00 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Ft-Bstrd:

REREAD your post- you cite a CITY regulation, after I mention the STATE variances.

First thing man in deep hole should do is drop the shovel



My "HOG" reference is entirely relevant, as HOG is a recognized, open order (non-dues-paying) of enthusiasts identifiable by insignia, for which any enforcement officer might easily recognize as being a concrete unit which thereby might require safe egress onto or off of a roadway, despite specialized permitting or absence thereof.

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Ft_bstrd
Posted on Friday, August 01, 2008 - 09:19 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

REREAD your post- you cite a CITY regulation, after I mention the STATE variances.

Where did I reference a state? Where was there a reference to any other place other than NYC in the post I referenced?

The only one digging holes here is you.
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Tramp
Posted on Friday, August 01, 2008 - 09:23 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Ft_bstrd:
Let me clarify:
you referenced a city code in arguing my post, a post which referred to state regs.
reread them, you'll see what i mean.

I apologize for any personal-sounding responses.
I actually enjoy reading your stuff (well, most of it) here.



(Message edited by tramp on August 01, 2008)
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Road_thing
Posted on Friday, August 01, 2008 - 09:30 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

..neutral corners, gents, please...
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Tramp
Posted on Friday, August 01, 2008 - 09:44 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Post edited, all apologies to Ft_bstrd....

Don't take any of this stuff personally. when we meet, i can only imagine a lot of fun chatter...at the expense, only, of carnies....
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Ft_bstrd
Posted on Friday, August 01, 2008 - 09:50 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

It's all good.
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Sardawg2dpd
Posted on Friday, August 01, 2008 - 10:29 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

"None of the revelations here are shocking or old. Just facts no one likes to hear period "

Its not that it is hard to hear, we just want everyone to remember that because you have one bad apple doesnt mean the rest of us are bad. We as police officers do the job because we love helping people. I've have been shot at, and stabbed. most recently myself and three fellow colleges responded to a bank robbery and got there as the bad guy was coming out.

Small foot chase and the bad guy decided he wanted to turn around and come at us with a knife. Well needless to say hes not here any more but that doesnt mean I am going to be an a$$ to everyone who has a knife.

I guess the thing to remember is there are always a few bad eggs, but calling us "Pigs" and other names is passing judgement on all of us when there are too many of us on this board that enjoy doing the same things everyone else does. Its nice outside I am going for a ride to relax.
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Oldog
Posted on Friday, August 01, 2008 - 02:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Osifer Nutt! have a good one, oldog.
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