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Greenlantern
Posted on Monday, May 14, 2007 - 02:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Time to call the law firm of Wee, Sueim and Howe.

1-555-MOMONEY
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Diablobrian
Posted on Monday, May 14, 2007 - 04:08 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

And all this time I thought it was Dewey, Cheatem, and Howe. ;)
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Diablobrian
Posted on Monday, May 14, 2007 - 04:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Not_Purple_s2 has a good reputation on this board I wouldn't dismiss his post out of hand.

This wasn't a second hand account of events, other than the story of the guy that bailed, he was there.

He is from Mobile AL so I would assume it happened somewhere near there, if not in Mobile.

(Message edited by diablobrian on May 14, 2007)
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Rainman
Posted on Monday, May 14, 2007 - 05:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

It's not the first time this tactic has been used, especially down here in the South. You can find similar news reports on the Web from as far back as 1994 that I know of. Unfortunately, it's the way things go, sometimes.
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Rainman
Posted on Monday, May 14, 2007 - 05:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

It's not the first time this tactic has been used, especially down here in the South. You can find similar news reports on the Web from as far back as 1994 that I know of. Unfortunately, it's the way things go, sometimes.
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Not_purple_s2
Posted on Monday, May 14, 2007 - 07:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Sorry, hadn't noticed all the new posts.

Yes this happened in Mobile.
There's a bike night every Friday at Krystals on Airport, which is where this all happened.
Everything I stated was my first hand account.
The only second-hand info was from the guy claiming to be the owner's cousin.
I hadn't met him before that night but one of my friends had been talking to both him and the owner of the bike earlier in the night and she seemed to think that they were decent people.
Every way I look at the situation I just don't see how they had the right to tow the bike unless they knew for a fact that the guy ran when they showed up.
But would even that give them reason to impound the vehicle?
The whole incident has left me feeling less like they were looking out for us bikers and trying to find stolen bikes, but more that they were treating us like a nuisance.

I'm going to ask a friend who has a few friends and relatives on the force here in town. Maybe she can find out what the real story was with that bike.
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Ducxl
Posted on Monday, May 14, 2007 - 08:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Cool,i just wanted to know WHERE it happened.Maybe i can call the local police dept./district attorney and ask them for info. regarding the legalities of that situation.Was it reported to the local media?
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Damnut
Posted on Monday, May 14, 2007 - 11:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Ducxl............ When did you turn into Matlock???????
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Panic
Posted on Wednesday, May 16, 2007 - 06:48 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Gestapo tactics arrive in the Homeland.

3 generations old in New York - happened to me in 1964.
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Paint_shaker
Posted on Thursday, May 17, 2007 - 11:50 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Depending on what state you are in, a private parking lot that is accessable to the public is generally subject to state traffic law.

Do you know if the Krystal store (as in a manager) wanted the Police to crack down on activities in their parking lot??(the $5 an hr flukie in the bathroom isn't going to know...)

Not to discount PurpleS2, but me thinks there is more to the story...
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Ryker77
Posted on Thursday, May 17, 2007 - 02:25 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Unless the Krystal store manager wanted all non-customer to be off of the parking lot - the police had no reason to stop ALL bikers and request information. No motive.

The police could have shown up and asked people to leave if that is what the store/owner wanted. But still had no legal reason to demand/hold persons without reason.


Don't forget this is Alabama. PoDunk towns in the south operate on a different freq.
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Captnemo
Posted on Saturday, May 19, 2007 - 07:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Mobile, AL. isn't exactly a PoDunk town. It's third in population with about 200K ( metro area should be about 400K ) people to Birmingham & Montgomery in Alabama. A State University w/ Medical Center, several world class shipyards, large shipping port facilities, Northrup Grumman is opening an aircraft manufacturing facility in the next 6 months, etc.

Not quite PoDunk... We even have that there intraweb thang down here...

I ran into Not Purple last night at Krystal, and it was a good turnout with not police presence.
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Ryker77
Posted on Saturday, May 19, 2007 - 09:54 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Ok I'll take back the PoDunk. But bird do fly upside down over Alabama because there isn't anything worth shitting on!.

Just kidding! Used to live in Ga and it's just a joke. Now live in WV nothing in this state but good atv trails.

Northern Al is a nice outdoors area. Lakes and mountains.
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Vegasbueller
Posted on Saturday, May 19, 2007 - 11:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Captnemo: Not to disagree with you about Mobile, but my wife and I lived there for about 8 months while I was working for MAE. We had the worst experience with landlords and service type folks that I have ever had in my life. The last landlord we rented from was even kind enough to point out that we might not want to rent his house because " we were white and there were *^&*^* (you know the word) living next door"! I didn't find the local po-po (don't you just love new age slang) not so agreeable or helpful as well. Maybe you have to be from there to be accepted. Anyone that found out we were from Vegas acted like we were either rich or the devil incarnate.
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Captnemo
Posted on Sunday, May 20, 2007 - 08:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Vegasbueller, Sorry you didn't have as positive an experience in Mobile as I have.
Mobile, as you well know isn't Vegas. I came from Los Angeles, so I wasn't from here either. I just had to accept that I was going to be the only one in a hurry to get something done at times. The service industry folks aren't motivated, because $6 and $7 per hour jobs aren't tough to find.
If you were at MAE, then I'm guessing that you had rented a place either near Michigan, Broad or DIP. Working class communities that are pretty heavily integrated. I live around Government & Broad street, so we have a pretty integrated neighborhood also.
The local LEO's are overloaded with petty crime, so a report is taken and if it turns up, you may get a phone call, you may not.
Yes, I know the word and see it in all colors. My mother once told me that "Trash doesn't care what color bag it's in"

You were Carpet Baggers- you were the devil incarnate LOL LOL LOL LOL

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Diablobrian
Posted on Monday, May 21, 2007 - 02:41 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

While it is true in many southern communities it can literally take YEARS
to be accepted as a local that's no excuse for a lack of manners or discretion.
Not to mention hospitality. The service industry folks you mentioned as well
as the police there should be ashamed.

Many times though a person that doesn't adapt to the local customs will be
given a cold shoulder. Rushing things they don't feel need to be rushed
is one way to make sure you have to wait longer.

Southerners can be stubborn about changing their lives to meet your expectations. ;)
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Vegasbueller
Posted on Monday, May 21, 2007 - 04:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Yep! We lived off of DIP. I actually thought of moving all the way out to the island but that made for a hard commute. I was raised in the South so I am used to "those kind of people" I had to act as an interpreter in many cases because my wife was born and raised in Las Vegas. It is a shame for the locals, and they economy there that the jobs do pay so poorly, and that does go all the way down to the LEO's in the town. I am sure starting salary for a cop there is $30 grand or less. And.... Southern govt has an odd way of doing things, and writing their own laws as they go.

And Brian, you are very correct. After 20 years away from "home" I bet I can tell you what my mom and dad are doing certain days and times of the week!
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