| Author | Message | ||
     Cataract2 |
Well, I'm down to 3 weeks before I leave for Basic in the Army. Fun fun. Anyways, I'm curious from those in the Army how riding is handled. I already have my MSF card, but was told I would have to take it again once I'm in. Anyone know for certain? | ||
| Chasespeed |
AS faras I know, once you have the MSF card, you are good to go... SOMETIMES, the base will require you to take an on base course..which is free.. BUT, all you shoudl need is your reg, insurance, and liscence.. When you find out what base you are going to, or if you know where you are going fro AIT or whatever ya'll call it, call ahead, and findout from them..you want to talk to Pass and Tag, theya re the ones who issue the base stickers.. Hope that helps If need be, i will call.. But, again, as long as you have the MSF card, you shoudl be giood to go.. Chase | ||
| Sgthigg |
Hey man good luck in you training. In the mil you will learn real quick not to ask pointed questions if you dont want pointed anwers. Go to pass and tag and hand the poor schmuck (that hates working there)there you info, and say you need a sticker. Say no more or less.lol A s long as you got a mil id,MSF card,ins, and reg. Dont ask anyquestions i bet ya you will have no problems.. Even if the guy is REALLY on the ball...I doubt it though. They will give you a temp pass until you can attend theyre course on base. Good luck at training and train safe. (Message edited by sgthigg on April 10, 2006) | ||
| Odie |
An MSF card is good. Depending on the location you may have to take a 'local' course. Doubtful though. All that is required is the MSF type course. Good luck!!! | ||
| Sik_s |
My base is trying to change the requirement so that the MSF is an annual requirement. Also, requiring you to retake the MSF course if you just returned from 90+ day desert deployment. Of course this only applies to sport bikes since they have had a rash of deaths all ready this fiscal year. | ||
| Seanp |
I have an MSF card from when I was in Louisiana, and it was good for both posts I've been stationed at in Georgia. I think that all they care about is that you have been through the course at some point in time... | ||
| Chasespeed |
Afer 90+ days? Do again each year? First I have heard of that... They better reimburse...yeah right... In Virginia, its an average 6 moth wai tot get a course....adn its 90 bucks... this is getting outta hand Chase | ||
| Southern Marine |
Taking the MSF every year and after 90+ days of deployment is INSANE. There is NO WAY an installation could support that. Heck, riders here at Lejeune have to wait forever in order to get an MSF course. I came back from a years deployment, and on my own I took it easy. I did have to pick up my bike and ride it home, about an hour, but I took it easy. When I got home I, and since, I take some time every week, go to an empty parking lot, and practice some basic skills. It never hurts to keep on your toes. This "proposed" changes sound like they are attempts to keep people from riding, "period", and to "target" sportbikes is unbelievably wrong. | ||
| Ryker77 |
They have a hard time finding new recruits. Thus they don't want to loose anybody. And the medical cost are very high. My bike wreck cost me 16 months of limited duty status. Thus my unit had to suffer the increased work load due to my riding of a bike-- err actually an old lady. I'd bet that soon they will not allow bikes over xxxx size or power. read this-- if you crash your bike or get hit. DO NOT TELL the insurance (tricare) that your injuries came from a MVA. If so -- if you have to see a civilian doctor for anything- Tricare will demand re-payment from any insurance settlement you get.. Cost my dumb ass over 25 grand! | ||
| Redhatbuell |
It gets better. In PACAF they limit the displacement for new riders to 600cc. I don't know why...an R6 will kill you almost as effectively as an R1. We're being told that the "Take an MSF course every year, retake a course after 90 days downrange" is on hold since someone threw the logic bomb and pointed out that all AF deployments are 120+ and us cops are going for six months (read 7-8). I'm trying to get base safety to send me to the MSF instructor course so we'll have another instructor on base. We can take the course for free...if you can get the boss to release you. We're just short of instructors. What we really need is a reality check for the young pups coming back from downrange with money to burn. I'm constantly reminding the kids that the speed limit is 70 and a bike that will do 170 seems a waste, unless you're on the track. Hopefully I'm getting through. | ||
| Southern Marine |
Ryker, the only way I see Tricare getting any of your insurance was if your settlement, or a portion of it, was for medical costs, and rightly so. They cannot touch your settlement if it were anything other than that. I will say this about the military and the "possibility" of making someone take it after deployments and every year, if they want to do this, then they had better HAVE instructors on base that can give classes WEEKLY. Here at Lejeune you have to take it out in town at the college and it has to be paid for. Right now, the Marine Corps will pay for it, but they have to wait, sometimes months to get a course, which is INSANE. With as many troops as we have, we need trained instructors that can give the course EVERY week, and a minimum of once a month. I'm not saying they have to give it every week, but they should be able to, especially with the number of individuals we have that work and are stationed here that ride. | ||
| Chasespeed |
read this-- if you crash your bike or get hit. DO NOT TELL the insurance (tricare) that your injuries came from a MVA. If so -- if you have to see a civilian doctor for anything- Tricare will demand re-payment from any insurance settlement you get.. Cost my dumb ass over 25 grand NOOOOO You have to be carefull The wreck I had in Feb..I didnt file a report, or anything...cops were on scene, saw it happen(in VA, a single bike wreck, not involving another persons or the stated property...I report IS NOT RED'D, may have the exact wording worng, BUT they said i didnt have to make a report) Anyway, limped into work the next day..bandgaed and all... They looked right at me, said OOH, wrecked the bike huh? police report please...etc.etc.etc... IF YOU GET INTO A WRECK, either go through all the stuff..OR TELL NO ONE. Anyway, I will not go into more detail on MY behalf..BUT, administrative action will most likely occur...as again, the military is trying to remove bikes...or so it seems to everyone who rides... ABove all...be carefull...there is no gray area here...at elast with the navy.. Chase} | ||
| Ryker77 |
When your involved in any accident-- be it a part time job, car, or bike wreck. Tricare becomes SECONDARY. If the insurances coder puts the "MVA" code in the system. Tricare will not pull police reports. They only know what you tell the doctors office when you fill out those forms and that question block - Is this due to a MVA? yes or no So if your in a wreck and get messed up real good. Most people have around 100k of coverage. Thats the max you can be awared for medical, bike, and pain. So after three surgeries and therapy you have 50k in medical bills. Tricare will want there 50k back. Your 100k settlement will be down to 50k. It could be that the insured person only has 25k of coverage. Thus tricare would take all of your settlement and could sue the person at fault for the remanider. Seams fair-- but when you think you have medical insurance read the fine print. Also my civilian health insurance will NOT cover any injury linked to when I was in uniform. Thus I have to wait 30-180 days and drive 1hr to the VA. Just ain't right. | ||
| Sik_s |
There soon will be no such thing as "military benefits" anymore. It will be called something more like "arbitrary benefits." | ||
| Ryker77 |
The current military vision is to turn nearly everything over to civilian contractors. Thus decreasing all long term benifits. Keeping only a few combat jobs open for military members. No more paper pusher or motor T. No more cooks or fuels. | ||
| Bigdaddy |
IMHO 1. Tricare sucks 2. VA care facilites/hospitals suck even worse As long as that retirement check hits the bank I'm good. G2 | ||
| Odie |
Bigdaddy- DITTO!!!! |
