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X1glider
Posted on Tuesday, December 03, 2002 - 10:50 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

BTW, José, Linda looks like she's out pacing you in the above pics! What form! Girlfriend on the track with you is definitely a keeper!
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Matty
Posted on Wednesday, December 04, 2002 - 12:39 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

ooops got my formatting all goofed up.
My number 2 reason is: fun
And the number three reson is: So far I'm into my '01 SVS for about $3000
Ah well, it was funnier the first time around!
=)
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José_Quiñones
Posted on Wednesday, December 04, 2002 - 07:41 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Yeah, she's got some pretty good lean angle in that picture! I followed her around for a few laps, she's pretty smooth.

She really had fun that day, she definetly wants to do at least one or two next year.
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Kevyn
Posted on Wednesday, December 04, 2002 - 10:10 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

So Peter, why not get her on a bike that looks as good as she does and one that she can dance with too!
if you tip her right, maybe she'll let you wax it!
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Peter
Posted on Wednesday, December 04, 2002 - 12:50 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Kevyn,
I think the price would give her heart failure!

Today I saw a nice new XB9S. They have them in the dealers now, and I started thinking, how would one of those be for her?
Maybe I could put a throttle stop on it until she was comfortable?
I've ridden a Firebolt and didn't think a beginner would have too many problems with it apart from the low bars, but I've been riding for 23 years (damn....!) on the street and for many years before I got my license, so my perception of a good learner's bike might be a bit skewed.
What do you blokes that own an 'S' think?
PPiA
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Jimmytwobuells
Posted on Wednesday, December 04, 2002 - 02:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Whoops! didn't explain myself very well!

I should have said " CCS lightweight supersport".
meaning the class with the least amount of mods.
CCS has supersport and superbike classes in lightweight,middleweight, and heavyweight versions. The SV competes in lightweight supersport against Hawks,Ex500's,FZR400's,and GS500's. Now which one do you think handles the best and makes the most power?
And small grids? Not in the Midwest region! It's not unusual to have 35-40 bikes on a lightweight grid. We've had over 70 at Road America!
The reason I didn't agree with the cheap part is there seems to be a horsepower war going on amongst the SV riders and we all know that HP cost $$$$$$$$$$.
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Jimmytwobuells
Posted on Wednesday, December 04, 2002 - 02:25 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Oh, and BTW, if you want a cheap lightweight bike to race take a look at a Hawk,EX, etc..... guys can hardly give 'em away! Why? the SV of course.
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Kevyn
Posted on Wednesday, December 04, 2002 - 02:57 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Well, how about one of these?

light weight, brisk handling, aftermarket dream
looks fine, handles well, priced for the entry level
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Peter
Posted on Wednesday, December 04, 2002 - 03:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Yeah, she does like the Monster.....
PPiA
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Newfie_Buell
Posted on Wednesday, December 04, 2002 - 03:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Monsters are very nice,

No Buell though!!
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Eeeeek
Posted on Wednesday, December 04, 2002 - 04:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Jimmy:

I came real close to getting an EX500. Solid bike that's been around forever.
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Hans
Posted on Wednesday, December 04, 2002 - 04:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Peter, what you did learn of the utmost importance in all those years was "reading the road". All-year-around-pushbikers in Holland did learn that since their 7th years of age. She isn`t Dutch isn`t she? Besides: Long legged dancers are sitting cramped on monsters. An "forgivable" bike will give more fun than a high blooded sportster.
Hans
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Henrik
Posted on Friday, December 06, 2002 - 01:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Peter: others have mentioned a bunch of good reasons to get an SV - I agree with them all. If crash damage is a concern, get a set of frame and bar end sliders (Pro version for the frame - bolts through the motor). That will minimize crash/tipover damage.

Replacement parts are cheap if you stick to aftermarket parts; $5 - 10 for brake/clutch levers. If you need "bigger" parts, so many of these are being converted to track duty, that you can easily find race-bike take-offs for a reasonable price.

The M2 flyscreen/brackets fit well with a bit of farkling, deflects a decent amount of wind, and doesn't look too bad either (I know you disagree, Rocket, so just sit on it ... and twirl :))

With the suspension sorted out, it's a very nimble and confidence inspiring bike, great brakes, bulletproof motor. Providing the rider can "handle" the confidence aspect and don't get too squidly too soon, it's a great choice.

... and for about $1600 in parts, you can supposedly bump the RW HP up to low - mid 80's, without sacrificing reliability, and without disassembling more than covers.

Henrik
(Vik, you must have gotten a screaming deal on that SV - dang!)
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Court
Posted on Friday, December 06, 2002 - 01:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

(I know you disagree, Rocket, so just sit on it ... and twirl )

That's about worth a FREE patch and you, of all people, are in a woeful position to "wish you'd got a better deal" dude....you stole your's too :)
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Newfie_Buell
Posted on Friday, December 06, 2002 - 09:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Rocket,

I don't think he was talking about a Merry-Go-Round at the local playground
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Henrik
Posted on Friday, December 06, 2002 - 11:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The SV - didn't quite steal it, but almost ;)

Henrik
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Rocketman
Posted on Sunday, December 08, 2002 - 08:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Dress it up anyway you like but for me the SV still represents what I consider to be a fairly ordinary bike. The fact it might work well means nothing to me, it's still a boring 'run of the mill' piece of shit. After all, they're only motorbikes. Not so a BUELL!!

Political correctness sucks.

Rocket
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Blackmotorcycle
Posted on Sunday, December 08, 2002 - 08:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

It gets you out on the track for under 6k. That's not boring.
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Henrik
Posted on Sunday, December 08, 2002 - 09:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Rocket; what's the saying ... ? "Hook, line and sinker ... " :)

Yes quite ordinary looking, but pretty outstanding in most other aspects. You can even wake up the exhaust note considerably with an aftermarket pipe - almost a Duc sound when you're engine braking heavily ;)

Henrik
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Rocketman
Posted on Monday, December 09, 2002 - 03:15 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

For under 6K? What a waste of money , and anyone daft enough to raise their profile on an SV by making it sound louder..................needs a shrink.

Rocket
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Henrik
Posted on Monday, December 09, 2002 - 08:22 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Now, now Rocket ... I think "someone" needs to get back on their antacid medicine.

Henrik
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Pammy
Posted on Monday, December 09, 2002 - 08:49 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

There is a pristine, low mileage, SV for sell in the Atlanta Ga area. I believe it will go for around 3k.
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Kevyn
Posted on Monday, December 09, 2002 - 12:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Well, IF I understand this end of the discussion--Peter's lady friend is looking for a 'first rider' type machine that is reasonably priced, beginner friendly handling with some adjustability as skills grow and heaven forbid--crashworthiness(I trust Peter will take time to keep her upright).
Since when did she decide to take it to the track?

I see no reason why a 'pre-owned' Monster620 is out of reach. It won't need a pipe to make it sound almost like a Duc...they are light weight, handle well, are easy on the eyes, aftermarket friendly, and a long legged dancer would look quite special on any such bike.
When she is ready for the track, let her get a throw-away SV to trash at will.
In the mean time, put her on a bike she'll enjoy for years to come, a bike she'll be proud to own, a bike that befits her dancer image and a bike with soul and character all its' own.
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X1glider
Posted on Monday, December 09, 2002 - 12:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

"I trust Peter will take time to keep her upright"

If Peter is the one paying for the bike, hopefully she'll take the time to keep him upright!:]

Kevyn, a Monster 620 is a bike befitting a dancer's image? What kind of dancer do you think she is?

Peter will have to fill us in since I have no idea either! (Just digging for dirt!)
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Peter
Posted on Monday, December 09, 2002 - 01:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Bob, Bob, Bob.....
No dirt available. Sorry.
I'm already married to an ex dancer. We are good friends with the one looking for the bike and her family. Both are mothers. I'm only a father to my wife's child and this is the website for the dance company. Het Internationaal Danstheater
Basically you're shit outta luck fella
PPiA
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Henrik
Posted on Monday, December 09, 2002 - 01:48 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Ahhh, puleeeese ... let's put the pipe thing to rest - it was an aside comment, with regards to a nice side benefit of a common performance upgrade - made for midrange HP gain - not more noise. I guess I didn't phrase that perfectly.

Henrik
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Josh
Posted on Monday, December 09, 2002 - 02:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

> Monster620 ... won't need a pipe to make it sound almost like a Duc...

Now that's funny.

I'll second both the SV650 and Duc620s are great beginner bikes. What's the dealer support like in your area?
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Hans
Posted on Monday, December 09, 2002 - 03:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Female dancer with 20 whole lessons = 20 x 50 minutes = 16 full hours and 40 minutes experience on a motorbike is looking for a bike that looks cool, that gives one of her friends no work because there are female friendly and capable dealers, that rides well in Amsterdam with highest speedbumps, narrowest streets, false angled turns, crazy traffic and slickiest tramrails when wet and only very slick when dry (seldom), for some touring out of Amsterdam if she can make it that far in due time. I keep voting for that 650 cc BMW Funbike with it modified Rotax engine. Hans
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Blackmotorcycle
Posted on Monday, December 09, 2002 - 04:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I think the Duc has a 6k mile valve check. It can get very expensive if you do much riding.
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Hans
Posted on Monday, December 09, 2002 - 04:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

And this is the final blow: Belt driven !!
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