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F_skinner
Posted on Saturday, October 03, 2009 - 03:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

If anyone has put turn signals in the tail section (where the little screens are) can you tell me how you did it. Since I am not that bright I would like any pictures of the setup as well.

TIA, Frank
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Easy_rider
Posted on Saturday, October 03, 2009 - 04:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I have a file I stole from the web that's too big to post here without some time reformatting. PM sent.
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F_skinner
Posted on Saturday, October 03, 2009 - 06:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Roger, got your email. Thank you so much. That is just what I wanted. I posted it to the S2 Yahoo group.

Frank
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F_skinner
Posted on Saturday, October 03, 2009 - 07:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Roger, I think I am going to use XB turn signals. I test fitted one today. I can get them in there fine but I am working on a way to change a burned out bulb without screwing things up. It would be easy to just glue everything in place but it would be impossible to get it out.

I need to stare at it a little more.
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Easy_rider
Posted on Sunday, October 04, 2009 - 12:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Let me know what you find. I had them fill the holes in my tailpiece when it was painted. This one's definitely mandatory for me.
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F_skinner
Posted on Sunday, October 04, 2009 - 02:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Roger, here is what I have done so far. Bought the reflectors and used a dremel to grind them down then a file to get them correct. Before and after.





Fitment





The XB turn signals. Do not use S2 turn signals. You cannot get them any more and it would be a crime to hackup a good set.








My plan to secure them is to mount a block of wood close to the top part of the hole and screw to light to that. I will post pics when I do that.

The reflectors only cost about 3 dollars from Checkers but I spent 97 extra dollars on other stuff I do not need.

Frank
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F_skinner
Posted on Sunday, October 04, 2009 - 03:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Here is the blocks of wood attached from the underside of the tail section.





This gave me something to screw the XB tail light guts into.





There is no way around not gluing the lens in place. I could attach it with screws but it would dork up the design. Since these are so cheap I would not feel bad about breaking them trying to get them out however, I think I can remove brake light section and get to the blink bulbs no problem.

This is how the tail section will stay until I clean it up, prep it and paint it.

BTW Roger, I will fill in the holes for the original turn signals as well and may cut the tail section down a bit.
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F_skinner
Posted on Sunday, October 04, 2009 - 08:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I noticed something while doing this. The PO must have had turn signals in the same place because there were strips of velcro in the hole. I am thinking they stuffed the whole assembly in the hole.

One other thing. In order to stop the turn signal light bleeding in the brake light I going to either put foil on the sides of the brake light or paint the sides black.

Frank
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Easy_rider
Posted on Sunday, October 04, 2009 - 10:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Thanks. I've got a set of broken S3 signals I'm planning on using. Using XB might make life easier in the long run, though.
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Gowindward
Posted on Monday, October 05, 2009 - 10:04 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Would trailer running/ marker lights be an option?

Something like these

http://shop.easternmarine.com/index.cfm?fuseaction =catalog.catalog&categoryID=421

Still would need some custom trim, but may fit better than the motorbike turn signals.
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F_skinner
Posted on Monday, October 05, 2009 - 10:38 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

No, I looked at several and had a few from my days of making/fixing trailers.

You will still run into the problem that the cut outs are not symmetrical. In fact, compared to each other the cut outs may not be the same shape on the inside due to the tail section (Rear Fairing in the parts book) manufacturing process.

I do believe that you can graft the insides for a trailer light to the reflector and had actually thought about doing that first. You would run into the same problem of not being able to change the bulb unless you mounted them without glue. It would need to be a tight fit.

From start to finish it only took me about an hour or less to do what I did. It would take more time if it was being done to an assembled bike.

I should point out that the reason I am doing this is because I want to run a set of S2 saddlebags that do not have the turn signal cutouts. These were not made by Buell proper but by a couple of Buell employees, one being our own 1313. There is a good story behind them but I will let Mr. 1313 tell it.

When I came across this frame I knew what I wanted to do. It is silly but I am building a bike based on a set of saddlebags that have no significance except to me and 1313.

It is still a lot of fun.

Frank
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Easy_rider
Posted on Monday, October 05, 2009 - 06:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Funny thing is, the reason I never did this mod to my S3 is that I thought the cutout in the bag would look out of place. I think you're getting the best of both worlds, here!
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F_skinner
Posted on Monday, October 05, 2009 - 06:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Here is a pic with the modified bags on the left and a regular bag, with cutout, on the right.


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Phelan
Posted on Monday, October 05, 2009 - 09:50 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Looks great Frank. I'm thinking about the same mod for mine.
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Ratbuell
Posted on Wednesday, October 07, 2009 - 10:52 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Use the innards from some LED trailer marker lights. Put a resistor in-line so the flasher "sees" a light bulb, and seal 'er up. LEDs should far outlast any glue or wood used to mount it all LOL : )
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