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Bhillberg
Posted on Friday, March 06, 2009 - 01:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

A few questions on the Force pipe, first off is there any way to clean rust off? I thought the coating was supposed to prevent this. Secondly, how do you remove this thing off of a X1? Everything is loose/unbolted but the sensor behind the rear cylinder is hanging up. I haven't tried to take that off yet (running late for work) I thought I read somewhere though that I have to drop the engine? If so should I go ahead and replace the Iso's?
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Limitedx1
Posted on Friday, March 06, 2009 - 01:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

im sure it should wiggle out of there somehow. i have never heard of having to do anything to the motor to get one out, the two pipes are mated together in the front just like a stock pipe.

my coating has started to bubble a bit in the front as well, also where is fell over in the driveway it has rusted inthe tiny scratches...im looking at a re coat, but probably just wrap it and forget about it
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Sleez
Posted on Friday, March 06, 2009 - 01:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

i'm having mine sandblasted then going to re-coat, either hi temp powder or ceramic. hi temp powder is cheaper but you don't get the insulative effects.
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Bhillberg
Posted on Monday, March 09, 2009 - 03:57 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

just talked to a guy at the local ceramic coater, he said that if there is surface rust with no pitting you can get blue magic metal polisher and use super fine steel wool.
1) dip the steel wool in the blue magic and gently rub back and forth with the pipe.
2) buff with a rag just like you would a car wax
3) use a paper towel to buff more, this will start to pick up the polish
4) wipe any residue left with a cotton towel.

I have not tried this yet, I will let you know how it turns out. Just thought it was pretty nice of the guy to give me this advice instead of just charging me the 250 for recoat.
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Limitedx1
Posted on Monday, March 09, 2009 - 04:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

mothers mag aluminum polish with chine up ceramic coat as well. i use that polish to take powder staines off of revolvers too, it works good for a lot of things! dont get it on black wrinkle parts though, its hard to get off just like wax on plastic
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Preybird1
Posted on Monday, March 09, 2009 - 04:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

You dont need to drop the motor i just did this yesterday, Did you unplug the o2 sensor? sorry dumb question. If you rotate the header counter clockwise or front of header up and back you can get it out without removing the o2 sensor. I did it this way because the o2 sensor socket i use was at the shop. Now the o2 sensor will get into the rear exhaust hole but it can be done, I did it last night!

The real trick is not to scratch the frame paint.

Go easy on the 02 wire, And if you need a new one use this one bosh brand part# 12014 it is only 12 buck's at any auto parts store and it works better than the stock one does.
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Bhillberg
Posted on Monday, March 09, 2009 - 05:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I ended up getting an angle wrench on the O2 sensor and taking it off. You mentioned a socket? Where do I get one of those? I know putting this sensor back in, while exhaust is on the bike is going to be tough to tighten. How much torque?
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X1_rider
Posted on Monday, March 09, 2009 - 05:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I used a lambda socket that I use on my cars all the time (3rd tool from the left in the pic), it works really well, especially with the offset.
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Bhillberg
Posted on Monday, March 09, 2009 - 05:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

ok, so basically it is a crowsfoot or torque adapter. I use those every day at work, don't know why I didn't think of it!
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Pkforbes87
Posted on Monday, March 09, 2009 - 10:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

X1_rider - that looks a lot better than the crow's foot I've been using to remove the O2 sensor. Grabbing 5 sides of the sensor instead of 3 would mean a lot less chance rounding the thing off..

Where could I find that tool?
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Preybird1
Posted on Monday, March 09, 2009 - 11:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I got my tools off the snap on truck and it's a special set of o2 sensor sockets for cagers. OR this site http://www.snapon.com/
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Preybird1
Posted on Monday, March 09, 2009 - 11:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Oh by the way make sure the o2 sensor is in good i didn't tighten mine down one time and went for a ride, And it lost ground to the exhaust and it ultimately shorted out my ECM, Now this was i think a freak accident, It burned the 2 pins on the ecm that control the o2 sensor input on the system, you could smell the burned plastic wire smell on the ecm main plug.
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X1_rider
Posted on Tuesday, March 10, 2009 - 05:55 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Pkforbes87, I got it here:
http://www.ecstuning.com/stage/edpd/pagebuild_v2.c gi?make=Audi&engine=1.8T&model=B6%20A4&submodel=Qu attro&category=Tools

Scroll down the page, it's called Lambda Wrench.
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