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Medic24
Posted on Monday, January 28, 2008 - 01:48 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Are there any updates on the s2 kickstand or should I just let it lean. Seems to be a little slop in the pivot point. I know this is common on S2's but is there anything I should do to improve it.
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Mikej
Posted on Monday, January 28, 2008 - 02:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

There is one update that I know of that inserts a steel pin in the sidestand housing to help prevent the sidestand from collapsing when the bike is resting on it.

Apart from that some S2 owners have heated and pounded and bent their sidestands to put the bike in a more upright posture while parked. There is a magical bend that stands the bike up straighter and still allows the sidestand to clear the swingarm while riding, it is buried in the archives of the knowledge vault someplace.

Rumor has it as well that there is/was an earlier Buell company sidestand that might work on the S2, shorter in length than the stock sidestand but more upright in posture. I forget if this older sidestand has ever had it's part number posted.

In the mean time I just park mine with a chunk of 2x4 under the sidestand when it's in the garage.
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Medic24
Posted on Monday, January 28, 2008 - 02:08 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Mike The 2x4 under the side stand is what I have been doing. Just checking on possible updates. Was the steel pin a Factory update. Thanks
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Mikej
Posted on Monday, January 28, 2008 - 02:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I think it was, mine has it. I believe it was an early running change.

I think this is a link to the sidestand bend:
http://www.badweatherbikers.com/cgibin/discus/show .cgi?tpc=3842&post=109556#POST109556

and a few posts above that link shows the steel insert:
http://www.badweatherbikers.com/cgibin/discus/show .cgi?tpc=3842&post=109379#POST109379

Hope this helps some.
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Aaomy
Posted on Monday, January 28, 2008 - 07:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

i think al at american sport bikes sold billet side plates for the s2.that corrected the problem while using your stock kick stand. they were rather expensive like 600? would have loved to get a set though!!!!

several bad webers bent theres with much success..

i bought a spare side plate and made my own to get the results i wanted.

most just park in gear and use a 2x4, mine i could put a 4x4 under and it would sit half way normal ,, then i changed it.
now the bike feels much lighter coming off the stand and it holds more gas at fill ups.








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Jos51700
Posted on Monday, January 28, 2008 - 08:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I've always wondered why noone at Buell said, "This is stupid..." while these bikes were still there.

I would love to know the reasoning behind it...
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Mikej
Posted on Monday, January 28, 2008 - 09:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The reasoning behind it will hopefully be in the soon to be published book, and I'm sure a few ears will smoke if it is told.
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Tom_k
Posted on Tuesday, January 29, 2008 - 06:28 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Nice stand and mount, Aaomy.

I was considering something similar.

TK
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Mikej
Posted on Tuesday, January 29, 2008 - 08:06 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Aaomy has done some nice work that he's been gracious enough to post about in the past. You might notice that his S2 in that pic has a newer style aluminum swingarm on it, not as simple to do as one might think.

(Shoot, now it's got me thinking, dang it.)
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Ratbuell
Posted on Tuesday, January 29, 2008 - 10:14 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I've got a set of American Sport Bike's sideplates on my bike and love them. They were pricey...but cheaper than bodywork if the bike fell over and crunched a saddlebag, leg fairing, tank.... His plates use later sidestands, I have one from an M2 on it now, but had my S1Ws in there while I was waiting for the M2 stand to arrive since the S1W was just sitting on Pit Bulls waiting for a shock at the time. I got the plates fairly recently too, like within the last year or so. The only adjustment I had to make was to drill and tap a screw into the top side of the stand pocket so I could adjust the "up" position of the stand. At first it was over-retracting and hitting the axle nut. Stand down, though, and it behaves just like any other Buell : )
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Mikej
Posted on Tuesday, January 29, 2008 - 10:28 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

They still show them on their web site:
http://www.americansportbike.com/shoponline/ccp0-p rodshow/6181.html

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Rex
Posted on Wednesday, January 30, 2008 - 02:20 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I hate the stock sidestand. I have ordered ones from Al. Cannot wait to get them on the bike, and have it lean at teh proper angle. REX
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Ratbuell
Posted on Wednesday, January 30, 2008 - 08:06 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Rex - you're gonna love 'em! This was the first thing I did to my S2 when I got it. Not sexy, not making it faster...but still the best mod I've done. I know it'll be rubberdown whenever I come back to it : )

My trick when it came time to remove the bolts that hold the plates on? First, start soaking them now with penetrating oil. Then, when the time comes to swap, give them a sharp blow to tighten them first. That should break them loose without rounding them the way you need them to stay sharp. Then start loosening : )
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Al_lighton
Posted on Wednesday, January 30, 2008 - 08:38 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Hmm, gotta delete them from the site. Tried to get more recently and couldn't do it.

Al
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Mikej
Posted on Wednesday, January 30, 2008 - 08:41 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Want me to try and delete the pics/post?
Don't want to send people there if they'll go and get all disgruntled.
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Aaomy
Posted on Wednesday, January 30, 2008 - 09:53 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

leave the picks!!!! too pretty and shinny to delete
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Mikej
Posted on Wednesday, January 30, 2008 - 10:12 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Then I might (or you might) have to image capture them and repost them directly since those are imagelinked and will disappear as soon as Al attacks his web page with the whiteout.

edit to add:
Maybe he can leave them on his site and just change the text to "not currently available".

(Message edited by mikej on January 30, 2008)
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Ratbuell
Posted on Wednesday, January 30, 2008 - 10:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Want me to see if the guys in the machine shop can program them into the CNC? Of course I hate to disassemble my bike...but if there's demand... ;)
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Ebutch
Posted on Sunday, December 06, 2009 - 01:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Yes Aaron but can not see detail of inside left S2 side plate of kick-stand.+ how stand bar works,(folds and holds)? Those $600 I would not spend my money that way!
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Aaomy
Posted on Sunday, December 06, 2009 - 09:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

the bike is all tucked away so it might be a while before i can get some picks. but you can see some from these picks..



there are two countersunk bolts holding the kick stand in place,, a tab goes up behind the side plate that the bolts thread into..



it uses a standard kick stand return spring,, i was going to use a ball and detent set up but got worried about it eventually coming loose jumping tracks or something like that.. so i went with the spring that will always pull it back, till the spring snaps..



hope this helps you some,, sorry i didnt have my camera at work the day i made this.. other wise i could have given you some better picks,, aaron
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