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Paul Starkweather (Snail)
Posted on Saturday, November 04, 2000 - 08:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

anybody seasick yet?
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Paul Starkweather (Snail)
Posted on Saturday, November 04, 2000 - 10:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The above photos, and the one below, were taken when a fleet of U.S. tuna boats, (including me) were evicted from Canada. Go home Yankee.

The reason we were evicted was a result of a pissingmatch between the Canadian and U.S. govts. over Frazier river salmon allocations.

We weren't fishing salmon.

We were fishing tuna in international waters in the vicinity of the Dellwood Knolls when the weather turned hard, and we went into Winter Harbor as a port of refuge.

Bummer.

Below is a pic of the tuna boat Tortuga del Mar, and the Canadian Coast Guard Cutter, 'Tanu', our escort to Int. waters.

Tanu
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mikej (Mikej)
Posted on Saturday, November 04, 2000 - 10:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Nope, not seasick, just remembering some of the boats I looked at back in the early 80's. I was thinking of converting a tug or commercial fishing boat like those pictured above into a live-aboard. Never did, probably should have, but that's life and there's always tomorrow.
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Paul Starkweather (Snail)
Posted on Tuesday, November 07, 2000 - 12:42 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Mike, I have owned a few boats, and lost money on them all, owned a few houses and made money on all of them.

But, if you're serious theres lots of cheap boats for sale. Since most fisheries are limitied entry and skippers are 'stacking' permits, theres lots of permitless boats that sell cheap.

Someone speak up if you are tired of boat pics.
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Paul Starkweather (Snail)
Posted on Tuesday, November 07, 2000 - 12:53 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Shrimping on a single rig. Bringing in the 'cod end', note very tight line on left, this is the 'lazy line' that we pull the cod end to the boat with.

bringing in the cod end
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Paul Starkweather (Snail)
Posted on Tuesday, November 07, 2000 - 01:02 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Hooklining the cod end aboard.

hooklining cod end
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Paul Starkweather (Snail)
Posted on Tuesday, November 07, 2000 - 01:10 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Dumping the cod end. Not a good tow, approx. 300 lbs.

bad tow
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Paul Starkweather (Snail)
Posted on Tuesday, November 07, 2000 - 01:18 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Clean tow of Pacific Pink Shrimp, approx. 1000 lbs.

clean tow
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Jasonl (Jasonl)
Posted on Tuesday, November 07, 2000 - 09:39 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Paul - can you define somethings? "Limited Entry"? "Stacking permits"? "Cheap"?
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Paul Starkweather (Snail)
Posted on Tuesday, November 07, 2000 - 10:07 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Jason, sure. Limited entry fisheries are those that are limited to existing licensed and permittted fisherman, no new participation. Only way to get into a limited entry fishery is to buy an existing permit.

Stacking permits. Some fisheries limit the amount of gear or the amount of resource a permittee can have or harvest. Example, Puget Sound crab permitees are allowed 100 crab pots (traps) max. So a owner/skipper will buy another permit to allow him to fish 200 pots.

Cheap is relative of course. But compare a boat that has no permits to an old motorcycle that isn't licensed or street leagal. Most of the harbors in OR, WA, and CA have a plethora of old boats without permits. Theres no value in these boats because they can't participate in the fisheries and therefore become a liability to the owners.

Moorage rates are high. If the boat leaks fuel or oil into the water the owner is subject to huge fines. If the boat sinks at the dock due to neglect the owner is subject to huge fines, etc.

For ten to twenty grand you can probably find fifty or more boats along the west coast that meet the above criteria.

Paul
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