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Tazmania720
Posted on Tuesday, May 06, 2008 - 11:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I am not having good luck with my X1. I am looking for a little knowledge here. Has anyone seen/heard of a rear shock blowing out after only 10K miles, and from the front seal? Also, does anyone have any idea around how much oil is inside the shock? I just had mine blow out and there was a lot of oil that came out, enough that is to leave a trail at least a block long and still a good puddle under the bike.
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Bad_karma
Posted on Wednesday, May 07, 2008 - 12:43 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Ed
This is a known weakness with the tubers. Not sure of the amount of oil in the Showa. Options are, rebuild the Showa (I would recommend a revalve and spring for your weight) or a new Penske/Works setup for your riding style and weight.
Joe
WORKS

Penske
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Cheddarheads4erik
Posted on Monday, May 12, 2008 - 09:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

My S3T has blown from the front seal as well. It's re-buildable?
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Tazmania720
Posted on Saturday, May 17, 2008 - 12:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Thanks for the input. I am going with the stock option. I should be back up hopefully by the holiday weekend.
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Bad_karma
Posted on Sunday, May 18, 2008 - 01:41 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

TG
Yes they are rebuild-able. Someone here does it and Race Tech will do them.
Joe
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Cheddarheads4erik
Posted on Sunday, May 18, 2008 - 08:40 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Thanks Joe, I ordered a Works, and I'll eventually ship off the stocker I guess. I think RaceTech does good(great) work, but the design of the stocker seems to be the weak point? Bad angle of the pull?

I hope the Works design is advanced.

Thanks for the reply!
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Tazmania720
Posted on Friday, June 06, 2008 - 01:36 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

OK, so my bike is still at the dealer for my shock. Apparently Buell has said that my bike does not qualify for any recalls on the shock, which I think is funny because I found a thread here that someone said that they had it picked up for the exact same problem. I don't get how my local shop has now ordered 3, yes THREE shocks and none of them are fitting. They are either to long or to short. The last part came from a "vintage" company. I was told that the kit is obsolete as well. Can anyone please help me with this. I am looking for rock hard info to take to the service and parts managers and basicly show them how to do there jobs. Thanks.
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Naustin
Posted on Friday, June 06, 2008 - 11:14 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Insist that the service manager call Buell and get their help. All it costs is time and Buell has dedicated people to handle these kind of questions.

(Message edited by naustin on June 06, 2008)
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Rick_a
Posted on Friday, June 06, 2008 - 11:30 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)


quote:

I would recommend a revalve and spring for your weight



You know someone who has springs to fit the Showa? Who?!

Vintage Parts carries surplus obsolete Buell and Harley parts until they run out.

It's very easy to tell which shock it is. There are two sizes...one is long (16.5" eye-to-eye) and the other short (14.5" eye-to-eye). The long shocks aren't supposed to be available anymore and these have skinny eyelets. Some have an SRP kit installed which are large collars that reinforce the eyelets on some 2000 models. The later Showa was introduced in 2001 IIRC and this short shock used a different front mount and had much more substantial eyelets. Either way, if they got the short shock they just need to order the proper front mount which is still readily available! (they just need to look up a 2002 model for the current part #).

Your '99 has the old-style flywheel which was not affected by the recall. The '00-up flywheels were slightly lighter and had the weight distributed very differently which caused a different frequency of vibration that had harmonics with the skinny eye Showas and fractured some of them. That is why there was no shock recall for the '99-priors, except for those that came with the WP exposed spring shock. Confused yet? That's usually why the parts guys are. It's all available online to dealer personnel if they don't already have the recall info and service bulletins on paper.

Anyway, my Showa blew at 10,500 miles and I just rebuilt it using a Race Tech valve kit and seals (according to them available only for skinny Showas).

The easiest way to tell that your shock is blown is that your rear end rides like a pogo stick.

As far as I know there is the Recall kit still out there in some dealerships that includes everything needed, and the latest short Showa still available from Vintage Parts that just requires a new front mount. As for the 3rd option, I don't know what else they could've ordered...perhaps an adjustable ride-height aftermarket shock? I don't know, but there's no reason why one should be too long. Unless they've got the mounts confused too, they should have a solution there that works!

A straight mount goes on the long shock, and a swept-back mount goes with the shorty.

Set them boys straight, man!
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