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Cobradave93
Posted on Tuesday, January 23, 2007 - 07:48 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Just like the title says, 2006 12Ss doesn't like the cold. It has full race kit installed and tps and ecm changed for kit. In the cold (32 or colder), the bike will turn over fine but has trouble firing. I have to use throttle to get started then it idles rough for a few minutes till warm. I've had the bike in several times in the warmer months for running problems when first started (rough running and cutting out),but the dealer just checks tps, timing, and the tries to charge me for these even though it's under warranty and it never has been fixed correctly. Now I don't know if should waist my time taking it to the dealer for this. Also on top of it all, after running in the cold then sitting it over night, the throttle freezes up. I think its in the throttle body end of things because after a long time of trying to start without the throttle, then finally getting running and idling for 10-15 minutes it thaws out. Anyone have these problems and find the solution?
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Blake
Posted on Thursday, January 25, 2007 - 02:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Might want to check for intake seal air leaks.

One similar issue discussed at...

http://www.badweatherbikers.com/buell/messages/384 2/238567.html
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Cobradave93
Posted on Thursday, January 25, 2007 - 06:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Thanks, I'll have to check that because after you mentioned it I checked the service manual again and it shows that as a possible cause for pinging also. I have that in the summer pretty bad.

Anyone ever have the throttle freeze?
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Odinbueller
Posted on Monday, February 12, 2007 - 11:39 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

First, you really shouldn't start your bike unless you intend to ride it. When you start your bike cold and do not let it get to operating temperature, you risk forming condensation inside & out of the engine (perhaps your frozen throttle?) that could cause rust inside the engine. When you go out and ride, it heats the engine up above 212° and the condensation evaporates. Is your oil kind of milky looking?

Also, by cranking the throttle while starting, I'd bet cash money that your plugs are fouled. Keep in mind these bikes aren't exactly in love with cooler temperatures anyway. So on cold days, I'd warm the bike up thoroughly before heading out for a ride. I know my S3T hates to go anywhere below 55° until it gets nice & toasty.

But Blake sounds like he is on the right track with your other symptoms. Check intake seals & spark plugs.

Hope this helps.

Chris
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Cobradave93
Posted on Thursday, February 15, 2007 - 07:19 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I ride all the time in the cold, not just start it and let it run for a while and shut off. The last time the throttle froze was the day after a 28 degree ride for 120 miles and the other time was after I rode to work (50 mile round trip).
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