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Mbsween
Posted on Sunday, July 15, 2007 - 07:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Okay,
I know I should stick to fluid flow vs electron flow, but this just doesn't look right to me


tpswires


After struggling with the intake manifold bolts, thanks to AL for the providing the wrench and to Tnm2, whose post saved me from doing awful things to the bike

http://www.badweatherbikers.com/cgibin/discus/show.cgi?tpc=3842&post=810112#POST810112

So anyways I finally get the intake off and looking it over I see the green and black wires going into the TPS are bare for about a 1/2 in. I can't believe this is a good thing.

Is that how its supposed to be? Should I tape the ends up with good old electrical tape?


Thanks
Matt
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Mbsween
Posted on Sunday, July 15, 2007 - 07:34 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Okay I didn't think much about the title of this section, so if you're wondering. In my Beer addled brain I saw the title as

"I know M(echanical) E(gineers) should stay away from wires....."

Oh well, maybe people will look just cause of the screwy title

(Message edited by mbsween on July 15, 2007)
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Kdkerr2
Posted on Sunday, July 15, 2007 - 08:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Tape them up. I suggest wrapping each wire with the smallest ziptie you can find also after taping. I've seen old tape come loose and start flapping if not ziptied. KK
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Dave
Posted on Sunday, July 15, 2007 - 09:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Hey Matt,
Isn't that a fairly short cable that connects to the FI? I'd think folks would have then sitting around off broken FIs or whatever. Maybe ask around on parts wanted. I'll go check my box of parts...


DAve
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Dave
Posted on Sunday, July 15, 2007 - 09:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I don't have one Matt
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Mbsween
Posted on Sunday, July 15, 2007 - 11:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Dave,
I haven't tried to take the TPS apart to see if the wries can be moved around.

How's it going, looks like you've moved on since I last saw you at Deal's Gap way back in 02. How's the Uly? One of these days I'll get around to a new one, maybe an 1125R , pending a test ride and a little time to see what owners think.

Thanks for taking a look
Matt
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Dave
Posted on Monday, July 16, 2007 - 07:28 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I'm really happy with the Uly Matt -- I was wrestling a new tire on the back wheel yesterday but it beat me down. (I've changed them before but this one kicked my ass) I'm 5 minutes from Barbers if you ever get down to Birmingham.

DAve
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5liter
Posted on Monday, July 16, 2007 - 04:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Some pics of a spare I have.




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Bad_karma
Posted on Monday, July 16, 2007 - 11:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Same place and same wire that failed on my 99 S3. Green wire that is.
Joe

(Message edited by bad_karma on July 16, 2007)
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Buell_bert
Posted on Tuesday, July 17, 2007 - 12:01 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Maybe try a wrap with tape and then shrink wrap it to keep moisture out. And if that does not work then a new harness. Keep the rubber side down.
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Mbsween
Posted on Tuesday, July 17, 2007 - 12:32 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Anyone have an idea on what the part costs?
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Dave
Posted on Tuesday, July 17, 2007 - 07:51 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Hit the guys over on the sponsor area?

DAve
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Reepicheep
Posted on Tuesday, July 17, 2007 - 08:45 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

You can paint it with liquid electrical tape first (comes in a little can). Give it a few coats letting it dry in between, and that will give you a good moisture seal.

Then just get a good mechanical attachment so the wires don't break or your new insulation does not wear off again. I have had good luck with that liquid electrical tape, then normal electrical tape, then a cable tie to bind it all together.

Strategic use of hot melt glue also has worked if the temperatures don't get that high. It makes a nice potting compound.
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Mbsween
Posted on Tuesday, July 17, 2007 - 04:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Reep
Thanks I've always enjoyed "Potting" things : )

Dave,
Have a Q into Andy, IIRC the part is somewhere in the 50 - 75 range

I think its out of a ford mustang, I wonder if there is a direct fit from a car part.

Matt
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Dave
Posted on Tuesday, July 17, 2007 - 11:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Ouch
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