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01buellx1
| | Posted on Sunday, September 03, 2006 - 01:00 pm: | 
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I have asked about this a few times, but no real help yet... for amlost a year, my bike has been ticking once it runs for a while, and I am getting very frustrated...
my question this time is.....
if a piece of epoxy, or some kind of trash were to make it into my oil tank...could it block the filter partly and cause the engine to make a loud "tick" once it gets hot? It always starts up quiet when it is cool, but once it gets hot...tick tick tick tick, very loud!!
I try not to ride it too much so I don't damage the motor, and I have no $$ to take it to a real shop. Someone told me that it could be a lifter making all the noise, but the oil thing makes more sense to me...any help would be appreciated!! |
Ocbueller
| | Posted on Sunday, September 03, 2006 - 04:00 pm: |
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Does it still run great! Probably just the usual lifter clatter. Ride it!
SteveH |
01buellx1
| | Posted on Sunday, September 03, 2006 - 06:18 pm: |
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usual lifter clatter is fine, but it sounds like a damn jackhammer when i pass a car or guardrail. |
Smokinjryan
| | Posted on Monday, September 04, 2006 - 01:46 am: |
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same with my 99M2 but people said it's normal but I'm skeptical.
Mine is from start up.I have never opened her up so I dont know if something was done to the engine. Could be a rocker arm? |
Jackbequick
| | Posted on Monday, September 04, 2006 - 09:46 am: |
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Is the noise there when not in motion?
If so, set the idle speed up a little and try to localize it with a mechanics stethoscope or piece of wooden dowel. Use a 1/2" or so dowel, close the flap over your ear canal with one end of the dowel while touching the other end to various parts of the engine.
That will usually let you narrow the noise location down better than just using your ears.
Jack |
Blake
| | Posted on Monday, September 04, 2006 - 03:20 pm: |
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The debris in the oil tank scenario is not likely. The oil filter has a spring loaded bypass valve that is there to prevent just such a thing from ocurring. Plus, the oil pump is a positive displacement type. It will literally burst the oil filter before it ceases to pump oil through your engine.
What kind of oil are you using? |
Ocbueller
| | Posted on Monday, September 04, 2006 - 06:30 pm: |
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How's your primary chain adjustment?
SteveH |
01buellx1
| | Posted on Tuesday, September 05, 2006 - 01:21 am: |
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I am using HD synthetic 10w40
The last time somebody worked on my bike they said that they tightened the primary chain adjustment...s it possible that they tightened it too much? he said he could not find the torque requirements in the book, so he did it by hand. |
Blake
| | Posted on Tuesday, September 05, 2006 - 04:25 pm: |
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Try switching to the H-D Syn-3 20W50 engine oil. The less viscous 10W40 would contribute to a noisier valvetrain.
There are no torque requirements for the primary chain tension adjustment. There is a free play specification. That might well be the issue. An improperly adjusted primary chain can make a heck of a racket. |
01buellx1
| | Posted on Tuesday, September 05, 2006 - 06:05 pm: |
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Blake wrote:
"There are no torque requirements for the primary chain tension adjustment. There is a free play specification. That might well be the issue. An improperly adjusted primary chain can make a heck of a racket"
What sort of noise would an engine with an over-tightened primary chain make? If this could be the problem, I would gladly loosen it a bit. What is this "free play spec"? Is it something that I could check by just taking off the cover, or do I need special tools? |
Blake
| | Posted on Wednesday, September 06, 2006 - 12:02 am: |
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A spanner and the right sized allen wrenches will do it for you. Your owner's manual may explain the procedure. If not see it... HERE on page 1-22 (10th page in pdf document).
Looser is better than tighter. Be sure to check free play for entire path of the chain as it travels around the sprockets.  |
Blake
| | Posted on Wednesday, September 06, 2006 - 12:03 am: |
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Too tight can cause damage to the engine's and transmission's bearings. I hope that isn't the case. If it is, the shop where the guy used a torque spec to adjust your chain tensioner should be made to cover any repair costs. |
01buellx1
| | Posted on Wednesday, September 06, 2006 - 10:52 pm: |
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I loosened the primary chain to about 1/2 in. Seems to sound better, but won't know until I go on ride longer than 5 miles. Unfortunately... the guy who worked on it last does not have a shop, supposedly he owned one up north before he moved down to FL, so no warranty work there...I rarely rode it once it started getting noisy, so hopefully the sound goes away, and stays away... |
Blake
| | Posted on Thursday, September 07, 2006 - 02:48 am: |
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Bummer. The big problem with adjusting the chain too tightly, what causes the dangerously increased stresses on the associated roller bearings, is that when the engine and transmission warm up, the aluminum engine and tranny case material between the two sprocket shafts expands a lot more than the steel chain (aluminum expands with temperature twice as much as steel), so the chain actually tightens even more, putting excessive stress on the roller bearings if it is adjusted to tightly. I sure hope all is okay. Let us know. |
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