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Reepicheep
Posted on Monday, April 25, 2005 - 05:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Is the diamond like carbon coating some of the imports are using on the front forks worth while, or is it the latest yamahondazuki "bold new graphics" enhancement of the season?

I'm sure the factory has looked into it, and wonder if anony wants to enlighten us into why it has not shown up yet. My guess is that when translated from theoretical to practical, the benefits vanish to the un-measurable.

Either that, or somebody has a patent on it and is not inclined to share ; )
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Vr1203
Posted on Friday, October 21, 2005 - 01:32 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

A friend of mine is into high tech finishes and he cannot tell me anything about it. It seems we need a insider with Japanese bike production knowledge to remove the smoke and inform us of the real advantages and the process.
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Reepicheep
Posted on Friday, October 21, 2005 - 11:30 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The most memorable quote about it I remember was from motorcycle online.

"The people from Suzuki don't think it is at all funny to suggest that the DLC fork coating most resembles black krylon from a rattle can".

I think it just reduces stiction. It came and went very quickly though, so I am thinking smoke and mirrors. Or at the least minor benefits versus cost.
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Jlnance
Posted on Friday, October 21, 2005 - 12:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Just to be pedantic, not only is diamond like carbon, diamond IS carbon.
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Anonymous
Posted on Friday, October 21, 2005 - 04:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Yes DLC reduces stiction, but it's not the only way (certainly not the most cost effective way to do it). It has little to do with the coating, but a bunch to do with the surface finish required to get the coating to stay put.
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Blake
Posted on Saturday, October 22, 2005 - 02:46 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Do any of the MotoGP or Superbike racing machines use it on their forks?
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Eric_m
Posted on Sunday, June 18, 2006 - 09:05 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

This it?
http://www.mb1suspension.com/id18.html
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