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Yellow_xb9s
Posted on Thursday, June 10, 2004 - 01:10 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Hey Guys,

I've noticed that the front end of my bike will vibrate (shake or shimmy, if you will) under light application of the front brakes at low speeds. It tends to vibrate with increasing intensity as the bike slows down, say, at speeds of 10mph or less. Braking harder tends to lessen the vibration, but doesn't remove it completely, especially at very low speeds. I detect no vibration at speeds over 15-20mph.

Have any of you experienced this? Do you have any suggestions on how I might remedy the problem if it is a problem at all?

thanks,

Ryon
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Kaese
Posted on Thursday, June 10, 2004 - 01:30 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I replaced my front brake pads at about 10K and noticed the front end shook much less. From my experience, front tire cupping is probably the culprit.
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M1combat
Posted on Thursday, June 10, 2004 - 01:49 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Yeah, I would agree with front tire cupping.
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Stainlessmag
Posted on Thursday, June 10, 2004 - 02:10 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I was just thinking about this problem today. When i first got the bike i noticed it but now i dont notice it at all thats about 1500 miles later
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Shred
Posted on Thursday, June 10, 2004 - 08:15 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

After about 800 miles the front started to shimmy, and shake. I road it for another month or so. Made my appt. with H-D. They said I was braking hard, need brakes. Got the bike out of the shop it still shimmy'd and shaked. I made another appointment byt he time I got it in the shop, my tire was worn below specks and they wouldn't even test ride it in the parking lot, the front end hopped.
Another brake job that I paid for, of course. I got it out of the shop same thing.
I put a new tire on it so they could test ride it and I put it in the shop and I asked them to check the rotor to see if it was warped and when I got it out of the shop they said it was fine.... that they checked it and it was within specs. I ordered a rotor put it on myself, paid for it even though it should have been warrantied and it solved the problem.
I also use after market brake pads, there are several to choose from EBC's are what I have on it now. When I brake it's smooth as glass.

Hope you have better luck with your tech's. I figured that I paid for 3 brake jobs and 1 rotor, which should have been under warranty. I now found a new tech we call 'The Sweed' and he's the only one who touches my bike besides me.
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Fdl3
Posted on Thursday, June 10, 2004 - 09:59 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

How much is a front brake rotor for a 2003 XB9R?
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Freyke
Posted on Thursday, June 10, 2004 - 10:20 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

This has been brought up before... see here...

Front brake issues - xb9
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Tucsonxb9s
Posted on Thursday, June 10, 2004 - 10:26 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Just went through the same exact thing. When I changed my front tire out it went away a little. Then I went and had my 5k service and told the tech what I was feeling. They inspected the rotor for glazing (there wasn't any), and re-torqued the headset. Problem solved. I would think if your rotor looks good, your tire is not cupped, then it's your head set. A minor adjustment but great results. My front end is shimmy-less!
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Daves
Posted on Thursday, June 10, 2004 - 11:10 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

New rotor kit is 144.15
Less 10% of course.

Ride to the edge!
Dave
daves@h-dappleton.com
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Fdl3
Posted on Thursday, June 10, 2004 - 11:14 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Daves: please list what is included in this "kit".
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Daves
Posted on Thursday, June 10, 2004 - 11:16 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

It is the rotor,the bushing thingys and new bolts.

Dave
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Fdl3
Posted on Thursday, June 10, 2004 - 11:44 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Daves: email on the way.
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Daves
Posted on Thursday, June 10, 2004 - 01:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Back at ya Fdl3
Thanks

Dave
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Daves
Posted on Thursday, June 10, 2004 - 05:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Thanks for the Biz Fdl3.

Dave
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Jasonblue
Posted on Friday, June 11, 2004 - 01:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

My bike does the same thing, (03 XB9S) but I agree with Tuscon, it feels like something is loose in the front end and the breaking causes it to shimmy.

Tuscon- what exactly did they re-torque, and could you have done it yourself?
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Tucsonxb9s
Posted on Friday, June 11, 2004 - 02:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I'm so mechanically inept I'd hate to tell ya the wrong thing. I'm pretty sure the head set is adjusted with the hex nut that's on top of the triple clamp...but like I said, don't quote me on that!
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Yeahcmon
Posted on Sunday, June 13, 2004 - 10:18 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I've got the same problem. Feels like the front forks are moving forward and back when braking. Mash on the brakes and no shimmy. Sounds like head bearing torque out of tolerance to me. I've got some time after work today and will attempt to re-torque the head bearing. I'll let you know the results.
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Dj_rider
Posted on Monday, June 14, 2004 - 09:32 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

heyyyyyyyy on my xb12r, i notice the front brakes pulsating (i cant spell) it almost sounds like it clicks at some times...anyone else notice this, is this normal, and if it isnt normal, what could be the problem: ) thanks!!
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Black1203
Posted on Monday, June 14, 2004 - 03:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Hey there, the 9s I used to have had the same problem. The dealer re-torqued the pinch bolts in the front of the steering head and also the big hex bolt. The problem went away. I have 18k plus miles on my 12r and it is starting to do the same.
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Black1203
Posted on Monday, June 14, 2004 - 03:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

sorry, I meant 1800 plus miles.
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Jaredkuper
Posted on Monday, June 14, 2004 - 05:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I get clicks too, but they are very faint and very fast. They are a produced by the pads moving over the holes in the rotor, not a problem at all.

If your clicks are coming from that, I wouldn't worry about it at all, but if it's something else I'd keep looking into it.
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Starter
Posted on Monday, June 14, 2004 - 06:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Just had the same prob. It was the steering head being loose. Jack it up, loosen the bottom triple clamp pinch bolts, loosen the steering stem pinch, and torque the cap bolt up way good (54Nm). Then retorque all the pinch bolts and go for a ride. Mine kept coming loose so I gave it a little loctite and that fixed it good. I found if I did it quick and nasty without loosening the bottom pinch bolts it would not tightne properly.
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Henrik
Posted on Tuesday, June 15, 2004 - 09:23 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

well, if you didn't loosen the bottom pinch bolts, you'd just be trying to flex the triples by tightening the steering head bolt, as the fork tubes had nowhere to go ... not surprising it didn't work

Henrik
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Yellow_xb9s
Posted on Thursday, June 17, 2004 - 04:25 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Hey Yeahcmon,

I was wondering if you had a chance to fiddle with your bike yet? If so, did the fixes help the problem?
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