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Firebolt020283
Posted on Sunday, September 05, 2010 - 12:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Ok yesterday my wife was traveling from Mckinny TX to Lake Charles LA and I am in Killeen TX. I wanted to visit her since it won't be until next Tuesday until I see her again so I met up with her in centerville Tx. Riding there was a blast and my bike was running smooth as butter. We spent some time together and ate dinner then we parted ways and I headed back to killeen. By this time it was getting dark so that meant lower visibility and more bugs so I was taking it easy and stopping more often to clean the bugs off of my face shield. Well I stopped in some small town cleaned my face shield and grabbed me a bottle of red diamond tea and then I took off on my way well about 5 minutes after leaving that store I felt a horrible wobble followed by a vibration coming from the rear of my bike. I let off a little bit and felt the wobble again and had no idea what the heck was going on. My first thought was that the belt was about to go or something. By this time I was in the middle of no were so I get to the next town and pull in to a Dairy Queen parking lot to try to figure out what was going on so I look the over the rear wheel for a messed up belt and find my belt is fine but then I notice the rubber from the wheel bering is no longer connected to the bering its self so then I realize that the bering is shot. To make matters worse I was no were near anyone I knew to be able to help me so I ended up riding for about a hour or more on this bad bering all the way home. Which it was not bad if I was maintaing a constant speed but if I slowed down I would get the wobble which was all fine and dandy until I started getting in to heavy populated areas.

So now that I know my bearing is shot and rode on it for a long time after it got messed up is there a chance I might have messed anything else up in the process?

Also is the wheel bearings a Buell part or is there a H-D part that will fit so I do not have to go an hour and a half away to get it? If there is a H-D part what is the part number please?
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Chrisrogers3
Posted on Sunday, September 05, 2010 - 01:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Riding that long with a bad bearing pretty much guarantees you a shot wheel as well.

Im betting you will find when you pull the wheel the bearing will fall out vs. having to be pulled out.
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Firebolt020283
Posted on Sunday, September 05, 2010 - 01:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

well I just went out there and started looking things over and it looks like the bearing saved the rim how ever the belt looks like it took a beating from this and the brake rotor looks like it got some abuse as well from it so looks like I might be replacing the belt the bearings and the brake rotor.
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Chrisrogers3
Posted on Sunday, September 05, 2010 - 01:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

If you had that much play that it damaged your rotor you are definitely going to have to put on a new wheel.

It doesnt take much at all to ruin a wheel after a bearing takes a crap.

Pull out your checkbook and write HD a check for a grand for everything.
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Firebolt020283
Posted on Sunday, September 05, 2010 - 01:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

how is my wheel messed up if there is nothing messed up on the wheel?
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Gunut75
Posted on Sunday, September 05, 2010 - 01:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

You will know when you take the bearing out. You got lucky. Sux being in the middle of nowhere. You will have to search around here, but some of these folks use some aftermarket SKF bearings.
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Chrisrogers3
Posted on Sunday, September 05, 2010 - 01:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The wheel bearings on our bikes are pressed in. When the bearing goes out the inner race of the bearing (the part your axle goes through) puts uneven pressure against the outer race of the bearing (which is what contacts your wheel). The force of that will warp the well where the bearing gets pressed into on the wheel.

All it takes is a few thousandths of play and your new bearing wont stay in place. Unfortunately I dont think anyone out there makes an oversized bearing for the bike either.
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Ourdee
Posted on Sunday, September 05, 2010 - 02:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

That has got to be the record for riding on a bad bearing. I would have did it to one of my old hondas, but, not my Buell. Sounds like it is time for a 2010 rim, spacer, bearings, rotor, rear pads, and a belt. Maybe an axle. May as well get a tire while your there. Glad to hear it didn't spit you off.
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Firebolt020283
Posted on Sunday, September 05, 2010 - 02:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Yea I am not made out of money like that so my list will be more like: used rim i can find in good shape hopefully any color but amber or blue or diamond blue, new belt, new bearings (all 4) used rotor in good shape, some new pads, and call it a day.
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Firebolt020283
Posted on Sunday, September 05, 2010 - 02:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

oh and a tire of course but I was about to change those soon any way.
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Teeps
Posted on Sunday, September 05, 2010 - 06:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

When installing the bearings follow the service manual instructions to the letter.
That means correct tools and procedures.

Failing to do so, will likely end in tears...
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Iamarchangel
Posted on Sunday, September 05, 2010 - 08:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Look for a bike wrecker. A long shot since anything HD is usually pre-bought but give it a try.

There's a website that shows up on threads but I can't remember its name.

Another thread said something about a sleeve but somebody would have mentioned it, I'm sure.

Some others have posted that Buell covered theirs. No idea how.

Stories like this are what convinced me to go CAA/AAA.
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Ourdee
Posted on Sunday, September 05, 2010 - 10:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Sleeve is the spacer that goes between the bearings. should get a new one.
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Iamarchangel
Posted on Sunday, September 05, 2010 - 11:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Actually, context was a bearing sleeve but it doesn't sound right.
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Ronmold
Posted on Monday, September 06, 2010 - 01:09 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Will my used '06 Uly wheel fit? Bearings are great and it has a nearly new scorpion sync on it.
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Ourdee
Posted on Monday, September 06, 2010 - 08:45 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

It should. I'm not sure if the pulley has to be swapped, I think it is a 9.
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Niceguyeddy
Posted on Monday, September 06, 2010 - 08:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Caa/aaa? What the hell is that?
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Firebolt020283
Posted on Monday, September 06, 2010 - 09:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I am a bit lost too.

I have not been able to do anything with it because as luck would have it my bike and me got sick on the same night so I have been laying in bed with a horrible cold.
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Fahren
Posted on Monday, September 06, 2010 - 10:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

AAA is triple A roadside svc. C is probly canadian...

The bearings are a standard size, and can be had at a bearing supply place - just don't get 3rd world products - go for quality US, german or Japanese-made product. American Sport Bike sells good ones also.

You probably have mucked up the area where the bearings sit, but it's worth checking it out nonetheless. If you get a used rim, change the bearings and spacer to new. One ride like this is enough for you, I 'll bet.

Be very careful, as mentioned above, to follow the manual specs exactly. Over-tightening when re-mounting the wheel is a primary cause of bearing failure, as it crushes the spacer.
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Blake
Posted on Tuesday, September 07, 2010 - 12:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Locktite makes a great product for installing bearings in loose hubs. I'd certainly not write of the wheel without looking at it. Even if the bearing seat in the hub is deformed, there are multiple solutions to save the wheel. Some I've know to work are knurling the bearing seat, oversizing/machining the bearing seat and using oversized bearing(s), using the aforementioned locktite green.

Good luck.
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Splatsc300
Posted on Tuesday, September 07, 2010 - 03:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Wait are you positive the wheel is bad??? I blew a bearing doing 97mph down through jackpot nevada heading to vegas. Everything was fine except for my belt and bearing cost me 150 bucks to install new bearing.
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Firebolt020283
Posted on Tuesday, September 07, 2010 - 03:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

no in fact from what I can see the wheel does not look like it is messed up at all but I won't know for sure until I get a chance to take off the wheel.
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Splatsc300
Posted on Wednesday, September 08, 2010 - 02:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

pretty fun ride when the back starts moving around like that huh???

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Firebolt020283
Posted on Wednesday, September 08, 2010 - 02:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

It was an interesting ride to say the least.
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Firebolt020283
Posted on Monday, September 20, 2010 - 11:12 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

ok so I was reading my manuel on how to change the bearings and it talks about this bearing puller tool and it has a part number and all. So my question is do I have to buy this thing from a harley dealer or can you buy these things from some were else? and does any one know about how much they cost?
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Gunut75
Posted on Monday, September 20, 2010 - 01:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Some fellas here use one of the Harbor Freight brand pullers. I'm not sure which one it is, but it's around $40.
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Firebolt020283
Posted on Monday, September 20, 2010 - 05:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

hmm I went on the harbor freight site but I am not sure which one to get so I will wait for someone to maybe chime in.
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Firebolt020283
Posted on Monday, September 20, 2010 - 05:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

but in any case I looked up the price for the ones in the manuel and they are 132.56, and 247.96. geese that is a lot of money for tools that will not get used all that often.
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Vtpeg
Posted on Monday, September 20, 2010 - 07:54 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I just replaced my rears. I couldn't shade tree them out, and called a local independent v-twin shop on labor day hoping he would be in. He wasn't but called me back that after noon. He didn't have the right collet, ended up buying one from snap on that was too big, machined it down, pulled the bearings, set the new ones, and refused my money. Said he thought Buells were "neat" and it was a learning experience for him, he would make his money on the next guy.
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Splatsc300
Posted on Tuesday, September 21, 2010 - 05:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Can't you just take the wheel off and take it to a shop?
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Firebolt020283
Posted on Tuesday, September 21, 2010 - 06:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

maybe but I am almost scared to find out how much that would cost... besides the nearest Buell dealer is a little over an hour away.
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Splatsc300
Posted on Tuesday, September 21, 2010 - 06:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Call them and ask, mine for a new bearing and labor was 125-150. How much is gas where you live compared to what you want to spend on tools and the parts.

Is there any other shops closer that will work on your bike?

Doesnt have to be a buell dealer.. I don't go to buell dealers just because of labor costs. The only time I DID use the buell dealer was for the bearing since they had it in stock.
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Brumbear
Posted on Tuesday, September 21, 2010 - 07:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

aint warrentee? I know you rode on it but what choice did you have? I would try to get some kind of warrentee really hard threaten a lawsut if you have to
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Brumbear
Posted on Tuesday, September 21, 2010 - 07:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

oops I saw the cherry bomb and thought you had an 09XB sorry
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