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420at145mph
Posted on Monday, May 24, 2004 - 12:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)


looked kinda gay like this
looks tight now
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Captainplanet
Posted on Monday, May 24, 2004 - 01:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The rims are tapeworks.com neon rim stripes.

Here is the short version of how to dye the plastic.

1. Remove all the stickers, save them if you want to reuse them. I suggest you do because it is hard to get the dye a consistent color where the sticker were.

2. Clean all oil, grease, wax, etc. from the plastic. I used simple green to clean mine.

3. Find a container large enough to hold enough water so that you can submerge each piece of body work.

4. Heat the water to 140 degrees. This is the part that is a pain. I just kept adding boiling water to my container, a large rubbermaid tote that I filled about half way with room temperature water until the water came up to 140 degrees. The plastic can melt or deform, so I would not suggest going hotter than 140.

5. Add in one bottle of liquid RIT dye, either use straight from the bottle if you can buy the color you want or mix colors together. I used a total of 3 bottles. I suppose if you wanted you could do some fades and such.

6. Leave the part in the hot water and dye for about 2 hours or until it will not get any darker. Keep removing some water and reboiling it and adding it back so that the water temp stays at around 140.

7. Rinse the part with cold water to remove any remaining dye and to make the dye set.

That is about it. Only time will tell how it does in the sun. I expect it might fade a bit, but you can always re dye it. The dye actually penetrates the plastic so it won't wash off. Cleaners with bleach in them could possibly effect it though.

Since I only have experience using orange dye on white plastic, I can not say what other colors will do. I started on my tail section cover as an experiment in case it did not work out. This of course dyes both the outside and inside of the plastic. Any scratches you had will show unless you polish them out of the plastic before dyeing.

I will try to answer any questions you guys might have, but I am attending a conference today, so it may be later before I answer.

edited by captainplanet on May 24, 2004

edited by captainplanet on May 24, 2004
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Bud
Posted on Monday, May 24, 2004 - 01:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

out off towner question

what is RIT dye ??
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Captainplanet
Posted on Monday, May 24, 2004 - 02:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

RIT

This is exactly what I used. You can buy it in the grocery store or fabric store.
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Bomber
Posted on Monday, May 24, 2004 - 02:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Martin -- fabric dye . . . what a great idea -- I wonder what made Cap'n think to try that?
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Captainplanet
Posted on Monday, May 24, 2004 - 02:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Bomber,

Lots of searching the internet. Found out you could dye golf balls, also made of surlyn, so I thought I would give it a try. It worked way better than I ever imagined.
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Cj_xb
Posted on Monday, May 24, 2004 - 02:25 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

RIT dye, wow that is neat !!! That stuff has been around since my mom was a kid, I would have NEVER thought to dye a bike that way !!

CJ : )

edited by cj xb on May 24, 2004
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Bomber
Posted on Monday, May 24, 2004 - 02:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Cap'n . . . . likke the first guy to figure there was something good to eat inside a pineapple . . . . wow!

coool stuff
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Glitch
Posted on Monday, May 24, 2004 - 02:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Tie Dye XB next?
Or Easter XBs!
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420at145mph
Posted on Monday, May 24, 2004 - 03:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

wonder if they make a money green and blue ghost flame dye
meh probly have to use paint
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Gonen60
Posted on Monday, May 24, 2004 - 04:05 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

anyone have any idea, how the dye would work on Black?

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Cj_xb
Posted on Monday, May 24, 2004 - 04:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I'm thinking not too good on black, mine's black too but I like that color as well !!

CJ : )
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420at145mph
Posted on Monday, May 24, 2004 - 04:17 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

dont see why it wouldnt work any better or worse than orange
oh ON black my bad

edited by 420at145mph on May 24, 2004
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Bomber
Posted on Monday, May 24, 2004 - 04:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

gone, one of the advatanges of surviving the Age of Aqaurius is remembering (after a fashion) acting like I was interested in watching my girlfriend tie-dye things . . . . . . (of course I wasn't, but was willing to act like it)(imagine sly and the family stone playin in the backgrouiind)

the answer you're looking for is "poorly, if at all. . . . . ."

start with white, and then add color . . . tough to add stuff on top of black
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420at145mph
Posted on Monday, May 24, 2004 - 04:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)



wonder if blue would work on these
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Geofg
Posted on Monday, May 24, 2004 - 04:57 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Okay, that is *by far* the coolest thing I've read today. Captain, my hat is off to you.

Now, finding just the right mix for the color I'm looking for will be an adventure.

-Geof (the geofg with only one "f" 8)
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Spike
Posted on Monday, May 24, 2004 - 05:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Captain,

I was able to guess it was some type of dye from the clues you gave, but I never would have thought of the idea on my own. Way to go, it looks really good and it's inexpensive.

Keep us posted on how it holds up in the sun.

Mike L.
'04 XB12R Firebolt
'94 FMII Turbo Miata (for sale)
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Buckinfubba
Posted on Monday, May 24, 2004 - 05:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Captain ....my hats off to ya, never woulda thought of that
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420at145mph
Posted on Monday, May 24, 2004 - 06:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

someone try it on some carbon fiber/kevlar stuff
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Davefl
Posted on Monday, May 24, 2004 - 06:50 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

It will not work on the carbon/kevlar bodywork as it is made with an epoxy resin and not surlyn plastic.
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420at145mph
Posted on Monday, May 24, 2004 - 06:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

who woulda thunk it would work on plastic either
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M1combat
Posted on Monday, May 24, 2004 - 07:05 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

You try it 420...
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Henrik
Posted on Monday, May 24, 2004 - 08:34 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Captain; true ingenuity. Thank You! : )

Probably can't make my blue bodywork black though?? I'd end up with some whonky off-color - like when the purple haired lady hair coloring goes wrong :0

Henrik

P.S. Gonen; do you have black bodywork that you'd like to exchange?? Blue XB9R here.
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420at145mph
Posted on Monday, May 24, 2004 - 08:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

u try it money bags
if cf wasnt so damn expensive i would
ESPECIALLY that carbon /kevlar stuff
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Bads1
Posted on Monday, May 24, 2004 - 09:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Carbon fiber is cleared so theres no way the dye would go into the weave.
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Easyflier
Posted on Tuesday, May 25, 2004 - 04:55 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Captain, did you add vinegar?

I suspected you used Rit dye when I did a search but one technique I read used vinegar (though that might be part of the instructions).

Very nice, am thinking of trying it on some blue body parts.
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Captainplanet
Posted on Tuesday, May 25, 2004 - 02:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Easyflier,

No vinegar. Just the liquid dye and hot water.
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Steviejay01
Posted on Tuesday, May 25, 2004 - 03:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Wonder what you could do to blue plastic??
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Davefl
Posted on Tuesday, May 25, 2004 - 04:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I would think that with the blue plastic that you would have to take the blue into account. say you wanted it green you would use yellow dye and so on. Someone with damaged plastic could test this on the cheap.
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Captainplanet
Posted on Tuesday, May 25, 2004 - 04:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I agree with Dave. I think you could change the color, but I am not sure you could get what you want. To be consistent with applying the color this with dye, you have to allow the item to soak up the maximum amount of dye. I think the best you could do with blue would be in the range of purple to black, all darker than the blue. But who knows. Trim a little of the plastic off the underside of a piece and test it.
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