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Ironiceberg
Posted on Monday, January 12, 2004 - 07:54 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Hey Guys, I have an 03 XB9S That will not start. The Battery is good and the motor turns over fine but there is no fire. The fuel pump is running and we have fuel but it dosent even sound like it has any spark. I tryed bypassing the kick stand switch by touching the two wires togeather but that dosent help either.
Any Ideas? Could this be something in the starter switch? I also heard that this bike has a sensor for when the bike falls over it shuts off the bike could this be stuck?
Thanks for any help!
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Fullpower
Posted on Monday, January 12, 2004 - 08:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

check all the connectors. seperate and replace the coil, ecm, and every other connector you can find.
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Fullpower
Posted on Monday, January 12, 2004 - 08:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

have you verified that there is no spark?
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Gearloose
Posted on Monday, January 12, 2004 - 08:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Does the horn work?
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Steveford
Posted on Monday, January 12, 2004 - 08:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

There's a safety switch at the clutch lever as well which is known to fail (mine did at night on a dark road, of course).
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Stot
Posted on Monday, January 12, 2004 - 08:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I got this and it was turning fine til I drained the battery, but wasnt fireing at all, not even coughing. Took the battery off stuck it on an 8 amp charge for 5 hours slung it back in and it started up first time.

Cya
Stot
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Ironiceberg
Posted on Monday, January 12, 2004 - 08:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Lets see here.
What is the best way to ck for spark? Screwdriver from the sparkplug wire to frame?
Horn works.
I think the safety switch on the clutch works because the fuel pump comes on when I squize the lever.
I charged the battery all night last night. And even tryed a jump box for a little extra but no go.
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Oconnor
Posted on Monday, January 12, 2004 - 09:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

This happened to mine once. It finally started when the tow truck driver opened his door. Lots of gas. To the point where you would think it woould be over flooded (that is if it was carbed) It finally started. To this day I have no idea what it was from.
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Fuzz331
Posted on Monday, January 12, 2004 - 09:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

You could end up with spark at your wire but this would not let you know what's going on where it counts.
Is there any chance you flooded it when you were trying to start it? If so, my guess would be you gas fouled the plugs. Cheap place to start.
I would pull the front plug and check its condition.
There have been plugs in my past that have come to life after this and some that havn't by applying heat from a propane torch.
Otherwise a set of plugs would be in order.
Just my 2 Cents.
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Ironiceberg
Posted on Monday, January 12, 2004 - 10:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Fuzz331 I think your on to it. I pulled the plugs they where pretty wet. I dryed them out and put them back in and got it started! The plugs look all black like the bike is running rich. I guess its time for some new plugs. Any reason it would be so rich?
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Dbird29
Posted on Monday, January 12, 2004 - 10:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

When I start my XB in the garage at 30 F it really runs rich (open the doors for sure). Probably loaded the plugs up with low spark due to weak battery?
Will Iron have to replace th plugs or just clean them with a rag?
DBird
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Fuzz331
Posted on Monday, January 12, 2004 - 10:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

This is the first fuel injected bike I have had and it is very difficult to stay away from the throttle when I am starting it. Years of 2 squirts from the accelerator pump and no air has always been my cold weather start procedure.
The computer has me at it's mercy with these.
Was warned by one of the salesman who owns a Buell that they are easy to flood if you don't let it do it's thing.
My XB12R starts hard at 50 degrees. It just kind of hits (pa blup) after a couple of these, it starts and idles Ok, I guess.

Always liked having a fast idle for warm up. Guess I'll just have to get used to it.
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Opto
Posted on Tuesday, January 13, 2004 - 03:46 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

"Always liked having a fast idle for warm up. Guess I'll just have to get used to it."

Same here, I miss it, squeezed in a U-shaped piece of cardboard between the throttle and the cable housing last time, it worked but I need something more permanent.}
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Trojan
Posted on Tuesday, January 13, 2004 - 05:50 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Try NGK DPR9-EIX9 Iridium spark plugs. They are equivalent to the 10R/12 H-D in heat range but will resist fouling much better. We have used them since the bike was new 18 months ago with no problems.
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