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Badlionsfan
Posted on Sunday, September 09, 2007 - 01:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I think I'm gonna go with a jardine for my city x. according to the exhaust shoot out it matches up pretty well on the 9's. question is i know it's pretty loud, so i was wondering if anyone has heard one with the quiet insert thing. if so, does it make a noticeable difference? thanks for any relevant info you can provide.
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Svo1023
Posted on Sunday, September 09, 2007 - 02:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

it's not that loud....but the can tends to fall apart....and you lose you muffler as a jack point....i would spend a little extra and get the drummer...
just my 02 cents.
Mike
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Badlionsfan
Posted on Sunday, September 09, 2007 - 02:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

it seems that the biggest reason for them to fall apart is the packing breaking down. when the rivets start to come lose, time to repack. i have considered the drummer, even have a stock muffler off ebay ready to send. i kinda like the looks and sound clips i've heard on the drummer, just haven't heard one with the insert. if i end up hating the jardine i'll get a drummer next spring. hell it's only money, poor people live without it.
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Sticks
Posted on Sunday, September 09, 2007 - 02:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I have a Jardine on my City and it's pretty loud without the insert. I don't have any experience with the insert. It's a little too loud for me as is. I'm gonna do something different.

Now you'll forgive me for thread jacking, but I'll sell you mine ( I'd say 9 out of 10 ) condition wise, it's the aluminum polished one, maybe 1800 miles on it, not much more. All the hardware etc. including the chin fairing mount for $150 shipped IF you send me your stock mounting hardware.

Let me know what you think. Just a thought.
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Badlionsfan
Posted on Sunday, September 09, 2007 - 02:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

thanks for the offer Sticks, but i want to hold on to all my stock stuff. i may go the drummer route in the future, which would require the stock mounting.
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Sticks
Posted on Sunday, September 09, 2007 - 04:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Smart, just checkin'
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Ustorque
Posted on Sunday, September 09, 2007 - 04:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

i recently did the jardine. i went with the carbon fiber and really like the pipe. so as far as sound its really not that loud until you put on a helmet and for some reason the low end really resonates in the helmet i've started wearing earplugs on longer rides . i don't want the insert because you do sacrifice power when its in. if you do go with the pipe throw out the header to muffler clamp jardine supplies(its a piece of junk) and use the stock one and be ready to do slight mods to the chin brackets they are close but not perfect. any other ?'s let me know
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Badlionsfan
Posted on Sunday, September 09, 2007 - 05:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

thanx for the info US, i'll keep all that in mind
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Concor
Posted on Sunday, September 09, 2007 - 05:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I have a jardine on my 12s. When i first ordered it i got nervous about the loudness so i also asked around about the insert. After it was on and i rode it i didnt feel as though it was all that loud actually. Like anything else in life you will have to decide if its too loud for you.
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Badlionsfan
Posted on Sunday, September 09, 2007 - 05:50 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

i ordered the jardine off ebay, went ahead and got the insert. it's easy to install and remove, so i guess i can change up the note based on my mood and what i'm doing.
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River
Posted on Sunday, September 09, 2007 - 05:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I was leaning towards a Jardine until I heard one "live" and thought the note was too sharp. And too loud as a result. I bought a Drummer instead and its deep rumble is perfect.
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Captain_nartman
Posted on Sunday, September 09, 2007 - 06:17 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Ifya Get a Jardine, REMOVE the stickers from it!!

Or have a Basta@d Time tryin After they BURN ON.


N x
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Firebolteric_ma
Posted on Sunday, September 09, 2007 - 09:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

After 3 years of abuse my muffler just came apart last week.

$28.00 for some Fiberglass packing, $10.00 for some new rivits and I am good to go again.

I was going to tig it solid instead of using rivits till I noticed the body is aluminum and the ends are stainless.

I also think once the clamp/gasket gets worn, The muffler gets movement and beats the rivits into submission....
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Xbolt12
Posted on Sunday, September 09, 2007 - 09:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Just make sure your ear-plugs are all the way in and sealed or your head will be rattling.

The quiet insert totally kills power and makes it weaker than stock by quite a bit. Someone on this board made their own with a bigger opening which probably worked well as a compromise. You could always get the Jardine insert bored out.
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Cereal
Posted on Monday, September 10, 2007 - 08:39 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Dude, do a search. It's ridiculous how much Jardine info there is on this board.

Here is a rundown:
- Some times it fits perfectly, sometimes it doesn't mount without serious modding.
- Some people have exhaust leaks at the collector, some don't.
- Some people love the sound, some people think it's oppressive.
- Get the insert if you want, but it seriously decreases power and is a pain to put in and take out.
- Everyone needs to repack in time or the can rattles itself to death.
- Remove the sticker immediately, or get pissed later when it cooks itself and scars the can.
- Keep an eye on the chin fairing bracket. They sometimes come apart. (I never mounted it, because I don't have a chin fairing anyway.)

Did I forget anything?

I for one, wished I would have spent more money on a system that was put together better so I don't have to worry about all that.
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