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Cereal
Posted on Tuesday, March 13, 2007 - 11:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

So I blew my rear spark plug out the other day on my 03 XB9R, and found that the hole is stripped. The bike was a repo, so I don’t know where to find the previous owner in order to ask what other little surprises may be waiting for me. To bad I didn’t find the issue when Black Sunshine was parting his beast out. Anyone else have a rear head for sale? Or would it be feasible to fix it or just tap it out and get a different plug w/ wider threads?

Posted in the wanted section too: http://www.badweatherbikers.com/buell/messages/21/ 264567.html?1173843575
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Bake
Posted on Tuesday, March 13, 2007 - 11:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Why not just helicoil it?
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Strato9r
Posted on Wednesday, March 14, 2007 - 12:35 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

If you are going to Heli-Coil it, go all the way and have a Sav-a-Thread insert installed. It is a solid stainless steel insert, rather than just a coil of formed stainless wire. I've installed hundreds of these things over the years, and have never had one fail or come out after installation, which can be a problem with regular Heli-Coils, especially when installed in high temperature applications in aluminum (header studs and spark plugs). Call your local Automotive Machine Shop, most places have been using them for a while now.
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Kaveman
Posted on Wednesday, March 14, 2007 - 07:56 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Check into something call "big serts" too... Just another type of repair insert.
Kaveman
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Cereal
Posted on Wednesday, March 14, 2007 - 09:47 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I did a little research and found that a time-sert would be the best option, but there are no on-line vendors and, from what I have read, the kit costs almost as much if not more than a new head. Then I found the sleeves on eBay for $2. I could then buy the tools that come with the kit for $20 to $30 and save myself a couple of hundred bucks. I sent an email to time-sert and am awaiting a response. Any thoughts?

http://www.timesert.com/html/sparkplug.html
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Cereal
Posted on Wednesday, March 14, 2007 - 10:41 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I'm impressed. Time-sert got back to me w/in an hour. They said that the kit costs $125 and that the tools are 'special' and can't be bought at a typical hardware store. Not sure I'm buying that, but just in case, does anybody have the kit and wants to let me borrow it?
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Oddsc
Posted on Wednesday, March 14, 2007 - 06:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I wouldn't worry too much about what else might be wrong with the bike. The same thing happened to my 06 XB12X (spark plug blew out of front head) with only 500 miles on it having never before been serviced. I had mine fixed under warranty, but I wouldn't have had a problem with an insert, they're at least as strong as the original threading.
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Cmm213
Posted on Wednesday, March 14, 2007 - 07:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Hey just try re tapping it my rear plug was cross threaded by the owner before me and mine worked fine. 12 mm 1.25 I believe not positive. You really cant hurt anymore so might as well try, temp fix maybe.
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Cereal
Posted on Wednesday, March 14, 2007 - 08:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

It's not cross threaded, its totally smooth. The plug just slips right in and out. My only options are to buy a repair kit, or replace the head.
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Hogs
Posted on Wednesday, March 14, 2007 - 08:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Cereal,

Your right the Time-serts are as far as I know the best out there, YEs the tool is expensive itself, BUT does a great job...

Too bad say there was not a Tool Crib here on BAdweb.. with all the special tools that we need from time to time, and we could get them mail to each other and have access to them wd. make life alot easier and maybe take some work away from them 70.00 an Hour Stealerships I vote for a TOOL GRIB YAH
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Brupska
Posted on Thursday, March 15, 2007 - 08:54 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

What size do you use from Timeserts? I was just wandering incase I have a problem with my firebolt.
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Cereal
Posted on Thursday, March 15, 2007 - 09:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The M12x1.25 kit (4212) is about $125 and the 15mm length sleeve (42123) and is about $3.

A new head is $230, so it seems kind of silly to spend over half of its value trying to fix it. I still think they are full of it when they say you need special tools that you can't get at a hardware store. Check the installation instructions on their web site. Looks like all you need is a counter sink, a tap, and a bolt. Anyone agree?

(Message edited by cereal on March 15, 2007)
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