| Author | Message | ||
     Terminator |
Funny thing, i dont consider myself to be any sort of corner king but my mates cant touch me in the twisties, however, i still have approx.one quarter inch of unused tyre!!!!!!! I think this is testament to Erics engineering coz i can still get my knee down in some corners. | ||
| Brineusaf |
I have about an inch left untouched on the sides... I don't put my knees down though (no knee pucks). | ||
| Dongalonga |
these bikes are capable of lean angles that should probably not be attempted away from a closed circuit race course | ||
| Skyguy |
Terminator, I run the left side of my tires off the edges (rear only). The right side always has 1/4 of an inch left due to it being extra dangerous to push right hand turns in the canyons. It is one thing to low side at speed into a mountain or guard rail it is another to low side into traffic. It is also unfair to lowside into somone else. they should not have to pay for our playtime. If you start running your tires off the edges you need to do some serious soul searching becasue it is a matter of time before you go down. Please don't ask how I know this................... | ||
| Ctyxrnr |
i got about 1/2 inch on the left side and none on the right side. there is a on and off ramp were i live that are really nice horseshoes to the right. | ||
| Spatten1 |
I've never gotten to the edge on the front with my XB, but I ride to the edge on the rear. That is on the track, not on the street. | ||
| Glitch |
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| Terminator |
Good advice Skyguy, im always careful not to push the envelope if i know some one might have to pay the concequences of my misshap. The thing is though, although i know i could lean further over, i have'nt needed to! This bike is the Bee's knee's, it does everything i ask of it and then some. Also, it allows me to relax while riding,something i never thought i would be able to do. When i used to throw my leg over a sports bike , i became another person. Many times i would start a ride by telling myself ( no , kidding myself!!! )that i was out to enjoy the ride, as soon as i left my village behind i was looking for the rev. limiter!! Now i get immense pleasure from just being out on the road.Now things like following a vehicle for a few minutes while being aware of whats going on around me to such a degree that, when i decide to pass i just give a squeeze of the throttle and im safely past.Being able to hold a constant speed through a series of bends without using the brakes or the gears , feels like an achievement now. When i look back to how i used to ride, i know ive been lucky!! Im not saying i dont "pin it open" any more , but as you point out....... why should someone have to pay for my mistake.... Theres a time and a place. | ||
| Vonsliek |
glitch .. they look nicely cooked .. pirellis diablo's? now i have done track .. it is definitely for ones betterment to save the heroics for closed circuit .. then find out what a *hero* u really are .. for some reason, track riding is way harder & scarier than twisties .. i guess its coz on the track u keep it pinned ALL the time & this is where one discovers the holes in ones technique/courage? anyway .. i freaking love riding the ragged edge on road or track .. the track just focuses & magnifies the intensity .. try it ALL!! >  | ||
| Glitch |
glitch .. they look nicely cooked .. pirellis diablo's? Nope, those are the original Dunlops after a day in the North Georgia Mountains. | ||
| Skyguy |
My Dunslops looked like that as well after a day in the hills. I think there is a balance between usable sticky and watch them go away gooey. Love my road attacks. I push them way hard and they wear and stick rather nicely. | ||
| Buellin_ri |
I had about a 1/4inch of chicken strip on my old Dunlops. Switched to Pilot Powers and its nearly if not all gone. The difference is very noticeable and more confidence inspiring. | ||
| Rr_eater |
I made the stock dunlaps look like that too, only with little bubbles forming on the thin area of the side wall, and HUGE gobs of rubber stuffed in the water grooves!! The first and only tire I have ever blistered!! I have no chicken strips out back, 1/4 inch up front. I too would not say I am some form of Picco or anything, but I too have left behind many a liter bike on my local roads. With the dunlaps I could not tell they were going away, until they did. But with my BT014s on there, I can feel it get closer and closer to the egde, and when they do break away, they do it sanely and progressively. I have had many guys and friends ask me how I stay on a bike that dances like Travolta in SNF!! Its fun to ride hard on familiar roads, per say, but I too agree, the left side of the tire wears out faster on my bike too, something about oncoming cagers....... Sorry about the rambling Bruce | ||
| Interex2050 |
here are a few different tires and how they cope... -dunlop 207 front  rear  -Pirelli Diablo front  rear  -Michelin Pilot Powers front  rear  Dunlops do not hold up well, Diablos are indestructable and wonderful in the rain, pilot powers are like glue... (Message edited by interex2050 on June 13, 2006) | ||
| M1combat |
Those Pilots look about like my M3's right now. I used to get that look in the front like your diablo but a little worse with the Metz M1's. The M3's look like the Pilots. Great tires. I did make a run through the Spars a couple weekends ago to see how long it would take to overheat the rear M3 and it looked somewhat like the Diablo up there as well after the second 11 mile trip. It was getting a little greasy in some areas on the way over the first time but it was pretty easy to cool it down... As long as I'm trying to be anywhere near smooth though they look just like the Michelin's. | ||
| Interex2050 |
M1combat, would you recommend trying the M3's next? I am on some strangely inspired quest to try out every tire that is worth trying... | ||
| M1combat |
I think they are worth trying. I weigh about 195 w/o gear and I run then at 33/34 or 33/35 on the street. Don't set the front too low. It'll want "extra" pressure on the inside bar to maintain a line. | ||
| Vonsliek |
from what i can tell .. diablos have a more pronounced *v* to the profile, while pilots are more *c* in their profile .. pilots looks like 190's on buell while pirelli's look kinda skinny .. i know form fitting pirelli's that they are a little nervous up front until bedded-in ... i think profile shape has a LOT more to do w/ a tire than we typically give them credit for .... | ||
| M1combat |
I give that plenty of credit... That's why I like the Metz's on the Buell. It doesn't turn in stupidly fast (but I've only tried the D207's, M1's and M3's, so maybe they do...) but is VERY stable all the way up until I stop leaning it (when the edges of my feet scrape). The D207's turned in slower and required more effort to keep it leaned. I believe the differences are a direct relation to the profile. One thing I noticed about the 207's though is that if you hang WAY off, they work well. They still get greasy too quickly for me, but maybe I just needed a little more preload on the rear? They were horrible in the rain though, so I'll never try them again. I think the M1's and M3's are very close to the same profile, but I think the front tire tread doesn't curve in right near the sidewall as much. I've actually gotten rid of the strip on the left side of my front M3 and was never able to do that with the M1. I think that may also be why the front feels a hair more planted too. I used to have the front push just a little just as I'd finish adding lean (learned to get on the gas earlier) but the M3's have never even thought about it. That said, I haven't gone through nine sets of M3's yet... | ||
| Diablobrian |
I'm currently running the Diablo corsas and I really like the feedback. between the bike and the tires I know exactly what's going on at the contact patch. I have not tried them in the rain. they handled small puddles and such at homecoming just fine though. I (narrowly)avoided the downpour though. | ||
| Vonsliek |
diablo corsa front (after crash & desperate for a front in calgary, canada) & almost new diablo on rear .. as track cooled i found rear getting loose .. front was good tho .. feedback good. rear was blistered after 100miles track on only curves. | ||
| Diablobrian |
regular diablo isn't really a track tire. the rubber compound is too hard for when the track cools off. great for mileage, and street pace...not so much for the track. | ||
| Vonsliek |
realise this deebee ... have u tried pirelli world superbike slicks?? those things are - to the touch - like rubber cement, even after cooling off ... | ||
| Jaimec |
After California Superbike School, the rear Sportec M1 was scrubbed to the edges, but the front has about an 1/8" of "chicken strip" on either side. I thought I was REALLY leaning that puppy over, but click on my name (at the left) and see how much daylight there is between the peg feeler and the track! How far CAN you lean it?? Wow!! | ||
| Glitch |
How far CAN you lean it?? Black_sunshine and myself had to take the peg feelers off the foot pegs, because we were hitting them in some of the turns. | ||
| Jaimec |
Dang! "We're not worthy! We're not worthy!" | ||
| Rasmonis |
I still have my factory Dunlops and I'm wearing right at the stripe on the front, the rear stripe was gone a long time ago...I just can't seem to go that extra 1/16th of an inch or so to get rid of it. I'm already looking for new tires, as the rear is darn close to the wear indicator, that chicken strip has to go before I put new ones on. -Ras | ||
| Davy_boy |
I run about a 1/4 inch on mine . No need to push it on the street the price you might pay for a slip up is more then I'm willing to pay .... | ||
| Dtx |
Here is the edge of my Scorpion Syncs.  | ||
| Blublak |
I actually 'lost' on of the feelers at VIR a while back. Took the other one off as fast as I could once I'd gotten back to the pits. Never bothered to replace them. This while running the D208. I've got Diablo Corsas on now and feel like the bike will lay down if I ask it too. But my own fear of a low side has kept me from going over that far... You'll find that the modern Buell will use ALL the tire there is.. and possibly some that isn't actually there (more like a thought of a tire). They are truly hard leaning machines. |
