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Gazoobla
Posted on Monday, March 06, 2006 - 11:25 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I found a decent deal on an XB12Ss with 400 miles on it. He has the exhaust, no ecm or filter. I doubt I'll need the extra power that the whole kit provides, but will enjoy the sound that the exhaust gives. Ok to run this way? If filter/ecm is stock, will I still run lean with just the pipe this way?
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Superbee24
Posted on Monday, March 06, 2006 - 11:43 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

you should be fine as long as you don't do anything with the airfilter/cover.
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Blake
Posted on Monday, March 06, 2006 - 12:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I strongly disagree. If you value the health of your engine, I recommend that you don't do it.
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Gazoobla
Posted on Monday, March 06, 2006 - 05:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Went to look at Lightning Long today, and although it is a Buell exhaust, it does not have the butterfly valve in it. He said it is a muffler for the XB9, that works with the 12 motors. I'm passing on this one. Thanks for input.
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99buellx1
Posted on Monday, March 06, 2006 - 05:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The Buell Pro-Series Race Exhaust does not retain the flapper valve, so he could be correct.

Was the muffler shiney silver or matte finish grey/silver?
That is the difference between the race exhaust for a 9 and a 12. The 12 is the polished version.
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Gazoobla
Posted on Monday, March 06, 2006 - 05:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Here's the pic. Thanks for info on flapper valve. Looks like the XB9 muffler is on it.

http://www.sporttwin.com/uploads/forums/100_0455.jpg
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99buellx1
Posted on Monday, March 06, 2006 - 06:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Looks like the 12 version that needs some buffing to me. The 9 version is rough and very dull.

Like this:

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Gazoobla
Posted on Monday, March 06, 2006 - 07:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

He's got 319 miles on his '06 XB12Ss. Asking $9,500 obo. I would imagine not too much could have happened to the engine in that amount of time without ecm and filter to compliment the exhaust, eh?
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Gazoobla
Posted on Monday, March 06, 2006 - 07:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

http://www.buell.com/en_us/bikes_gear/accessories/Product.asp?Menu_ID=2&ProductL ineID=2&CategoryID=1&ProductID=1710

http://www.buell.com/en_us/bikes_gear/accessories/Product.asp?Menu_ID=2&ProductL ineID=2&CategoryID=1&ProductID=1975

Both links seem to state that either ceramic or polished work with either 9 or 12. I'm confused.

"Fits '03-later XB models (except '06 XB12X)."
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Pwnzor
Posted on Tuesday, March 07, 2006 - 02:49 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

yeah whoever is in charge of that website goes to work on a short bus every day. same items listed more than once and misleading descriptions on some items. Also the listing of accessories is far from complete.

i need to stop here or i will rant on and on about it
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Gazoobla
Posted on Tuesday, March 07, 2006 - 06:35 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I'm thinking I like the Special Ops exhaust, as it keeps that flapper to flatten out torque curve. I can run this without ecm and filter, right?
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Bcordb3
Posted on Tuesday, March 07, 2006 - 08:37 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

My XB9 is kitted. The muffler is polished.
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99buellx1
Posted on Tuesday, March 07, 2006 - 10:45 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Like I mentioned, they are the same except for the coating on the outside.

i.e. a Race pipe for a 12 is the same as the pipe for the 9, they just have a different appearance on the outside.


The reason that it does not fit on the 12X is because of the long suspension, the angle of the belt could cause it to come in contact with the muffler tip.

To reiterate this one more time.....you can use either pipe, they are the same, they just look different. Get the one that you think looks the best to you.

(Message edited by 99buellx1 on March 07, 2006)
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Bcordb3
Posted on Tuesday, March 07, 2006 - 11:01 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

That is the difference between the race exhaust for a 9 and a 12. The 12 is the polished version.

Yes, you did say that. And, I got the one that looked the best to me.




To stress this one more time..
I don't think this statement came off very well, I think you meant reiterate.
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99buellx1
Posted on Tuesday, March 07, 2006 - 11:05 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

changed. thanks. (sometimes vocabulary is not my forte)
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Chadhargis
Posted on Tuesday, March 07, 2006 - 11:31 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I have the race muffler on my 12X and have no issues with the muffler hitting the belt. It's close at full extension, but it doesn't hit.
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Gazoobla
Posted on Tuesday, March 07, 2006 - 05:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

So, ok to run Special ops pipe without ecm and filter? What's your opinion 99buellx1? Others?
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Sik_s
Posted on Wednesday, March 08, 2006 - 12:43 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

What about running a D&D muffler on an XB with the stock filter and race ECM? (filter is on order)
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Daves
Posted on Wednesday, March 08, 2006 - 01:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

You have mail.
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New12r
Posted on Wednesday, March 08, 2006 - 06:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

28k with just a 9 race muffler on a 12, just recently installed a K&N filter, still no ecm. No engine trouble or running problems for me.
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Cochise
Posted on Monday, March 27, 2006 - 12:20 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Sik, I just got through with the D&D with Race exhaust and got better results with the stock ECM. I also thought the difference between the can on the 9 and the can on the 12 was the lack of an exhaust valve in the 9.
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