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Eurotwins
Posted on Wednesday, September 28, 2005 - 06:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Anyone fitted Ohlins R&T forks and rear shock to thier XB yet? I've ridden a standard 748s compared to my Ohlins clad 748r and the differance is night and day. I can purchase forks and shock at a REALLY good price but am wondering about front brake fitment....John
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M1combat
Posted on Wednesday, September 28, 2005 - 06:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I believe that Ohlins makes a fork with either an adapter to support or with native support for the ZTL setup.
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Olinxb12r
Posted on Wednesday, September 28, 2005 - 06:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

That would be pimp!
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Interex2050
Posted on Wednesday, September 28, 2005 - 06:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I envy your luck.... (how much?)
If its the fork (kit) designated for the XB, it should come with the special caliper mount.
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Interex2050
Posted on Wednesday, September 28, 2005 - 06:54 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

btw.
And if that set doesnt include the proper lower
attachment, if the price is low enough you could just order the lower part for the XB.
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Eurotwins
Posted on Wednesday, September 28, 2005 - 07:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

$2600.00 OTD plus shipping....John
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Interex2050
Posted on Wednesday, September 28, 2005 - 07:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

That is truly amazing.
I would risk it.
I can't imagine the lower part costing more then $300 if you will even need it.
Do "they" have anymore of them?
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Eurotwins
Posted on Wednesday, September 28, 2005 - 07:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I would be buying these from a friend at a BMW store at cost as a one time deal but I know HARD RACING sells them for a discounted price of $3090.00 plus shipping as opposed to $3808.00 retail....John
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Interex2050
Posted on Wednesday, September 28, 2005 - 07:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Well thats not too bad either.
Thanks for the info.
btw
If you ever get tired of the set/bike feel free to pm me.
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Walt221
Posted on Thursday, September 29, 2005 - 01:34 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I have a set on my XB and I love them. They're way better than the stockers. And yes, it does come with all the brackets to mount the stock caliper and the front fender.
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Björn
Posted on Saturday, October 01, 2005 - 07:25 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Hey there,

My friends bike was the one used by Öhlins to configure and build suspension for Buell. The first edition was with a smaller bracket. But the second edition uses a radial mount leg, of course a bracket to make it fit. But it is much more stable! My friends opinion is that it is much smoother, and looks awesome : )
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Buellerx
Posted on Saturday, October 01, 2005 - 12:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Anyone have a lonk to some pics of the Öhlins set up?
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Buellerx
Posted on Saturday, October 01, 2005 - 12:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Anyone have a link to some pics of the Öhlins set up?
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Diablobrian
Posted on Saturday, October 01, 2005 - 02:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

http://www.waltsipp.com/photo_pg2.html

Walt's photo album
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Blake
Posted on Saturday, October 01, 2005 - 06:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Please post all future threads like this in the applicable Knowledge Vault topic (Suspension). We'll be moving this one there soon.

Thanks,

Blake : )

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Xbolt12
Posted on Sunday, October 02, 2005 - 10:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Please please please Blake, can we at least separate xb topics in the kv? I for one like scanning for interesting new topics like this one. If I always have to search, how will I know what I am missing???

Respectfully,

xbolt12
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Buellshyter
Posted on Monday, October 03, 2005 - 12:16 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

DITTO
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Johnb
Posted on Monday, October 03, 2005 - 01:11 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

info, Öhlins r&t forks, don't think there is a pic of the 2nd gen buell specific caliper bracket people are talkin about tho.
http://www.parts-unlimited.com/catalogs/street/prod_detail.asp?productID=91439
(non-sponsor sorry..)
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Xbolt12
Posted on Friday, October 07, 2005 - 12:41 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Cool.

Question is, does anybody know experienced suspension tuners/racers using Ohlins on xb's? What I'm afraid of is that on the rear almost every race Buell is using Penske and most use modified stock forks.

That might mean a lot of experimentation to get it right.

I'm hoping that I'm wrong and it would be easy to find good baseline settings.

Also it would be great to hear of some feedback on one brand vs the other on xb....
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Blake
Posted on Saturday, October 08, 2005 - 01:45 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Xbolt12,
It is imperative that you take advantage of the "New Messages" search option. It is the ONLY way to browse the BadWeB.
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Trojan
Posted on Saturday, October 08, 2005 - 05:18 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Question is, does anybody know experienced suspension tuners/racers using Ohlins on xb's?

Hals were using Ohlins forks last time I spoke to Terry. I'm not sure which shock they were using but I know that Ohlins do spec one for the XB.
Buell Bonn in Germany used Ohlins Front& Rear, although the forks were different in that they used the SICOM carbon twin radial mount brakes.
These pictures are of their 2003/4 bike, but as far as I know they still use them. They did very well in the German BEARS (British, European, American Racing Series) this year as well, winning their class I believe.


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Henrik
Posted on Saturday, October 08, 2005 - 05:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Holy moly - that is a sweeeeeet looking bike. Dang it Matt - now you made me want to turn my XB9R into a track bike rather than selling it to make $$ for a Uly.

Decisions, decisions ...

Henrik
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Walt221
Posted on Saturday, October 08, 2005 - 06:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Don't be nervous about experimentation with the Ohlins forks. The spring Daytona race was the first time I used them on my XB. The forks felt so much better than my re-worked stockers that on my second lap of the weekend I was able to carry more corner speed than I ever had before. They are awesome forks. I haven't touched a setting ALL year! The only thing I did was add a little more fork oil to keep them from bottoming on the brakes at rough tracks. The also do not fork bind while trail braking like the stockers do. In case you are still worried, you'll be happy to know that they (Ohlins) give excellent service as well when you do have questions.
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Henrik
Posted on Saturday, October 08, 2005 - 08:34 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Walt; thanks for chiming in. That's a good reference point. Although I doubt I'll ever get fast enough to truly justify an Ohlin's set-up, it's always nice to dream/plan.

Henrik
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Xbolt12
Posted on Saturday, October 08, 2005 - 10:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Thanks guys. Now my decision is getting really difficult. Today my buddy let me take his new 05 Ducati 999 up Palomar Mountain South Grade and down again at knee dragging speeds. It's a beautiful ride and very precise and stable, but I found I am spoiled by that "lump" of xb motor. The Duc pulls cleanly from 4k up, but just doesn't feel as fast until maybe 7-10k RPM. I'm not sure it isn't faster than the xb (my friend was behind me on my bike), but it just doesn't feel the same and on a tight road like above you are forced to chose between jerky acceleration if you drop a gear and having to shift back and forth, or not having the responsive power of the xb when you run a gear high on the Duc. The 999 brakes are unbelievable though and it makes me wonder if radial brembos are the way to go (outside of cost) on the xb if you are changing the forks anyway.

So where I was really heading toward a 999s, I may just plunk down the cash for Ohlins and some engine work....

Now if someone would just finally dyno the TiForce exhaust, that might be my starting point for the new and improved 04 xb12r ; )
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Xbolt12
Posted on Saturday, October 08, 2005 - 10:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Of course on a more open road and on the track, I'm sure the 999 would wail on the xb...
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