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Joe7bros
Posted on Thursday, July 14, 2016 - 11:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I tried searching this, but to no avail. The question is: is there a definitive range of build dates and/or VINs that require the harness fix or were all 2009 bikes involved.
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Dannybuell
Posted on Friday, July 15, 2016 - 09:49 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

all 09s.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nBYEYGJfyBw&featur e=youtu.be

the sooner the better.
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Froggy
Posted on Friday, July 15, 2016 - 10:37 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

All 2009, 2010, and any 2008s that have had a motor replaced with a 2009/2010 motor.
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Joe7bros
Posted on Friday, July 15, 2016 - 05:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Thank you
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Squish
Posted on Friday, July 15, 2016 - 10:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Joe,

I don't know if you put it in another post or not, but did you change your alternator rotor to the modified rotor? Or did you install a on-demand type (not a shunt type) voltage regulator? (Also called a series-parallel voltage regulator, or something like that.)
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Joe7bros
Posted on Friday, July 15, 2016 - 11:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Squish, I removed the Harley fix; measured voltage from stator - 21.x to 22.x at idle all 3 legs; no continuity to ground. The plan is to upgrade the R/R with a series type in the next couple of weeks. For what it's worth, I ride more like standard or cruiser than sportbike which may not be best for this beast, but I also don't have any additional electrical load. And right now, it's too damn hot to ride in the Phila area.
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Squish
Posted on Saturday, July 16, 2016 - 02:42 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Joe,

I would leave the Harley harness fix in place until the you upgrade the R/R. I wouldn't be surprised if the stator failed rapidly without the harness fix in place. Not having any additional electrical load doesn't change the thermal load on the stator with the stock shunt-type VR (Voltage Regulator). The shunt-type VR is 100% thermal load to the stator for 100% of the time without the Harley harness fix in place, regardless of electrical load.

John

(Message edited by squish on July 16, 2016)
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Figorvonbuellingham
Posted on Saturday, July 16, 2016 - 03:15 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I've had 4 CR's. One of them I left the harness fix on and just replaced the R/R. Never had any issues.
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Pwillikers
Posted on Monday, July 18, 2016 - 12:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

FigorVBH, Did you install the Shindengen SH847? How and where'd you mount it?
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Dennis_c
Posted on Monday, July 18, 2016 - 07:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

CE605

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Joe7bros
Posted on Monday, July 25, 2016 - 11:34 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I want to thank everyone for their input. And now an install question: So the SH847 has leads to the battery for a direct connection. How is the original regulator taken out of the loop. Certainly unplugging the fix harness takes care of the stator side of things, but what about the battery side. I've looked at the electrical schematic, and it looks like there are two connectors on the regulator - one for stator (which has already been bypassed by the leads on the new regulator) and one for the battery side. I assume those two connectors can be disconnected from the regulator and no wires need to be cut.
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Jc1125r
Posted on Tuesday, July 26, 2016 - 07:13 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Yes, just disconnect the two connections from the old VR. I would recommend that you tape them off so that they would not be reconnected inadvertently. I actually removed the original VR as I like things tidy.
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Joe7bros
Posted on Tuesday, July 26, 2016 - 08:41 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Jc, thanks for the info; I'll probably leave the R/R and fix in place for a while as a backup, just in case
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