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Speedbrake
Posted on Monday, April 06, 2015 - 03:47 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Hi guys,
I have a stock 1125CR with only one mod: an EBR race ECM programmed for my stock bike and European fuel. What happens when I replace the air Filter with a K&N filter? Do I need to reprogram the ECM?
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Stevel
Posted on Monday, April 06, 2015 - 05:08 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Well, I am confused again, not just with you, but others as well when they describe their ECM as a "Race ECM". Often that is NOT true. A race ECM is labeled by EBR as a race ECM and when delivered, it comes with a CD containing the software to program the thing. These ECMs do not support closed loop operation and do not require O2 sensors to operate. Very often folks here call a EBR programmed ECM a race ECM and it is not. It just has a custom tune. So, now that I have had my bitch of the day, in answer to your question, probably not. Of course, the only way to know for sure is to drive your bike with wide band O2 sensors plugged into a Data Logger.

Your question does bring up a valid point though. Without doing the data logger thing, nobody really knows. Even EBR, without testing, they can only make a wild ass guess. They will simply load a configuration that they think matches a test they did before on someone else's bike.
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Speedbrake
Posted on Monday, April 06, 2015 - 05:44 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Hi Steve,
I am very sorry. Maybe i got confused by the "for race use only" label... I meant the EBR tuned, off the shelf, factory programmed ECM. Would the K&N filter have a negative effect on the running characteristics of my bike, since it has a less restricted air flow? Just wanted to know that I am not messing things up.
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Nikoff90
Posted on Monday, April 06, 2015 - 05:56 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

PREPROGRAMMED ECM FOR 1125CR
Engine Control Module for 1125CR model motorcycles with race exhaust systems using premium pump gas. This calibration also works with a free flowing air filter. Simply replace existing ECM with this one for race or track-day events. After installation of the ECM, the bike will require a TPS reset, but this procedure can be performed by the owner without the use of any specialty tools.

Use of this ECM is not intended for vehicles operated on the road or otherwise subject to emission control requirements.

In California, this product should not be used on any vehicle that is registered or licensed for use on public roads.

Choose from one of the following exhaust options:
STOCK EXHAUST SYSTEM WITH CATALYST
STOCK EXHAUST SYSTEM WITHOUT CATALYST
FMF
HMF
Barker
Jardine RT5
Drummer
REMUS
KEDA RT3 SLIP ON
EBR Exhaust System

Please select your exhaust system from the drop-down menu below to ensure the proper ECM match.

NOTE: The ECM is shipped with a non customizable calibration, and no options are available. This ECM as delivered contains one race calibration map, and cannot be re-programmed through our tuning software kit. In order to be able to program right away, you must buy
Y1152.08AZ PROGRAMMABLE 1125 ECM KIT. You also may choose to add the ability to program later using
Y1052.08AH PROGRAMMABLE ECM SOFTWARE AND CABLE, but it will require shipping the ECM back to Erik Buell Racing to be synced with the software license.

1125CR_ECM
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Nikoff90
Posted on Monday, April 06, 2015 - 06:01 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

What Stevel says is true but generally the EBR map should be close enough for all but a perfect tune which is like chasing rainbows on a street bike. The EBR map should be richer than any stock ECU with all stock components regardless.

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Sprintst
Posted on Monday, April 06, 2015 - 07:45 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Well there is a logical reason people call them race ECM's.

They are marked RACE USE ONLY for legal reasons



NOTE: The ECM is shipped with a non-customizable calibration, and no options are available. This ECM as delivered contains one race calibration map, and cannot be re-programmed through our tuning software kit.


http://www.erikbuellracing.com/store/parts-accessories/fuel-injection/1125r-preprogrammed-ecm-for-use-with-pump-gas.html


(Message edited by sprintst on April 06, 2015)
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