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Skiaddict
Posted on Wednesday, June 02, 2010 - 10:53 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I thought this was a Buell forum
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Buell2001b
Posted on Wednesday, June 02, 2010 - 11:09 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

who said Buell is not going ot be in WSB or MotoGP one day
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Jaimec
Posted on Wednesday, June 02, 2010 - 11:19 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

This falls under the "& More" part of the subject.
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Skiaddict
Posted on Wednesday, June 02, 2010 - 11:29 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Just kidding, hence the and

See http://www.badweatherbikers.com/cgibin/discus/show .cgi?tpc=158664&post=1828129#POST1828129 for reference
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Jaimec
Posted on Sunday, June 13, 2010 - 01:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Looks like Bayliss will stay retired after all.
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Jaimec
Posted on Friday, June 25, 2010 - 08:53 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The "Crocodile" is fastest so far in Misano. Will this be his breakthrough weekend??
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Svh
Posted on Friday, June 25, 2010 - 01:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

http://yfrog.com/hqal6hj

Have these carbon forks shown up in GP yet? Very interesting and I also wonder how many $ a carbon Ohlins fork is.
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Jaimec
Posted on Saturday, June 26, 2010 - 10:59 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

CORSER ON THE POLE!!!

Could this be BMW's break out weekend?? Maybe BMW is "pissed" enough at Aprilia's little dig to show them what they can do??

Speed is showing the races here LATE Sunday night/early Monday morning. I'll have to catch it on DVR but I'm pretty sure I'll know who'd won by then. :-(
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Eldredma
Posted on Saturday, June 26, 2010 - 02:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Ducati and Aprilia have had carbon forks since the 990 days. Ducati uses the extra stiffness as an attempt to overcome some of the flex of a trellis frame. They cost enough that they took them off the bike for the replacement rider (Hoffman) in 2006. The closest thing available to the public (which uses aluminum outer tubes) retails for over $13k

(Message edited by Eldredma on June 26, 2010)

(Message edited by Eldredma on June 26, 2010)
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Jaimec
Posted on Sunday, June 27, 2010 - 10:48 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Just saw the results of Race 1. This weekend looks like "Revenge of the Old Guys."
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Jaimec
Posted on Sunday, June 27, 2010 - 07:25 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

"Old Guy" still won Race 2, but the younger ones made it onto the podium too.
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Jaimec
Posted on Monday, June 28, 2010 - 10:56 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Continued from the "MotoGP Thread:"


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There seems to be a lot of ill feeling towards the Aprilia WSB team and bike within the paddock and Fabrizio made some less than guarded comments about the Aprilia 'motoGP bike' after race 1. I wonder if the FIM will rescind their decison to allow Aprilia to run gear driven cams?




I'd mentioned before that the best way to accommodate a former MotoGP racer in WSBK was to build a "Street Legal MotoGP Bike" for said racer...
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Eldredma
Posted on Monday, June 28, 2010 - 12:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Maybe those teams learned to whine from last year's Daytona AMA teams. Maybe Erik just needs a couple European friends and Buell could run in SBK with the 1190.
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Trojan
Posted on Tuesday, June 29, 2010 - 04:36 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Maybe those teams learned to whine from last year's Daytona AMA teams.

Actually it is a bit more than whining, and they do have some considerable justification at the moment. The rules were 'waived' or at best liberally interpreted to allow Aprilia to run cam drives that were not on the stock bike and not available to buy (hence strictly illegal). However since the ruling Aprilia have still not made this cam drive available to customers yet so are in theory still illegal. However the organisers seem to like Aprilia so they are turning what appears to be a blind eye.

Unfortunately the net result will be that the other factories will 'build themselves into a corner' by producing superbikes purely to win the WSB championship and with no or little relevance to road riders. Having seen pictures and specs of the new Kawasaki ZX10 I can say that it has been designed purely to win a championship, and is yet another 190bhp missile irrelevant for todays road rider.
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Vagelis46
Posted on Tuesday, June 29, 2010 - 02:54 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I think that all the current 1000cc road bikes producing +160RWHp , are irrelevant to 95% of todays road riders.

Checa on a satellite Ducati could beat the Aprilia in the US races. Propably , Checa could beat Biaggi at Misano on a Xerox Ducati bike. Or maybe it is Biaggi's year , and it is not that much down to the Aprilia's bike.

Could Bayliss beat Biaggi's Aprilia if he was riding the Xerox Ducati ??? I say ...100% Yes.

Bayliss was much faster than both Fabrizio and Haga during the Ducati Weekend a few days ago. Fabrizio should look elsewhere than Aprilia's bike for not being able to stay with Biaggi.

I would not mind if Aprilia got the title. We need a new manufacturer doing well, and Aprilia put a lot of efford and money into the WSBK series. I would feel sorry for Haslam , since I think that he is by far the best rider in WSBK at the moment , he just has not have the abilities of Spies to override the Suzuki as Ben did with the Yamaha last year.

I also think that Ducati needs to have the same minimum weight as the 4cyls.

There was nothing stopping Honda producing a V4 1000cc VFR RR a few years ago , and doing what Aprilia is doing now. Why blaming Aprilia for trying to produce the best ever WSBK bike ?? Bravo to Aprilia !!! I just dislike Biaggi......
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Eldredma
Posted on Tuesday, June 29, 2010 - 03:50 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

In much the same way Buell was allowed to run the 1125R and RR last year because the chain drive was available even though only to racers through factory support.

I think any bike producing 100+ horsepower is irrelevant to today's roads and laws. It has never been about who could ride the best. It's about who's bike is the coolest or how it makes you feel. Otherwise the factories wouldn't go racing at all. It's like golf clubs… there's only one Tiger Woods but there's thousands of people that want to use the same clubs he uses.

As far as who could beat who on what bike and when goes. It's all guesses and emotions based as much on television production as technical knowledge as far as we go. However, I'm sure that Erik or Court could beat any of them ;^)
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Jaimec
Posted on Thursday, July 01, 2010 - 09:58 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I'm going to cross post this here and on the MotoGP thread because it is interesting and relevant to both:

http://moto-racing.speedtv.com/article/wsbk-noyes- notebook-the-pirates-revenge/
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Jaimec
Posted on Tuesday, July 06, 2010 - 04:48 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

This has got to be a kick in the teeth for Ducati:

http://www.superbikeplanet.com/2010/Jul/100706b.ht m
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Trojan
Posted on Wednesday, July 07, 2010 - 05:59 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The biggest surprise is that Smrz has gone to Aprilia and not to BMW as was widely expected (especially having tested the bike extensively a few weeks ago). I don't know how competitve a satellite Aprilia will be though as they haven't done too well in other national series running private RSV4's so far.
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Jaimec
Posted on Wednesday, July 07, 2010 - 08:50 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Maybe Aprilia offered a better deal? Or Smrz figured he was better off with Biaggi's bike than Corser's as Biaggi has stood on the podium more times? Who knows...
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Trojan
Posted on Wednesday, July 07, 2010 - 08:58 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Trouble is, there can be a world of difference between factory teams and privateer teams running the 'same' bike as we all know. Just look at the private BMW team that Andrew Pitt was supposed to ride for this season...poor performance and then no money to finish the season with : (

Hopefully Smrz has some asurances and guarantees from Aprilia as he is one of the most exciting WSB riders already and would be good to see on a fully competitive bike : )
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Jaimec
Posted on Friday, July 09, 2010 - 11:45 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Is "Nitro Nori" FINALLY back??
http://www.superbikeplanet.com/2010/Jul/100709wsbk q1.htm
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Fresnobuell
Posted on Saturday, July 10, 2010 - 04:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Is "Nitro Nori" FINALLY back??
http://www.superbikeplanet.com/2010/Jul/100709wsbk q1.htm


Why do you link to that POS Buell-hating website?

The answer to your question is NO!

http://www.roadracingworld.com/news/article/?artic le=41126

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Jaimec
Posted on Saturday, July 10, 2010 - 06:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)


quote:

Why do you link to that POS Buell-hating website?




Because they're often the first to post any news, that's why. And I see Nori had some crashes today. He never does well in qualifying I'm afraid... but if he's gotten his "feel" back he can challenge from damned near any position on the grid.

The Emperor is going to be tough to beat tomorrow. For some reason, he seems to grok Brno.
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Jaimec
Posted on Sunday, July 11, 2010 - 06:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Haslam's fading. Not sure why, but it's looking like Max's season to shine.

Further weight reductions for the Ducatis going into the next round.
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Trojan
Posted on Monday, July 12, 2010 - 08:59 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Haslam's fading. Not sure why, but it's looking like Max's season to shine.

The Suzuki 'factory' team haven't had any upgrades at all from the factory since the first round of the season, so have had to struggle to develop new parts themselves and this patently isn't working. The Suzuki apparently struggled at Brno because they put too much weight on the front end and couldn't cope with all the fast downhill corners. Haslam adjusted the weight distribution right back but it still wasn't enough : (

Aprilia and BMW are constantly developing their bike at huge expense and Ten Kate have had a lot of HRC input recently, so Suzuki (and Yamaha) are struggling to keep up unfortunately.
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Amafan
Posted on Monday, July 12, 2010 - 10:29 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Haslam's teammate was 4th and 7th ,not to bad .
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Trojan
Posted on Monday, July 12, 2010 - 10:34 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Haslam's teammate was 4th and 7th ,not to bad .

Different riders have widely different setup preferences. Strange how Guintoli goes well at a track where Haslam suffers, but the rest of the year has been pretty much eclipsed by Haslam (with the exception of Philip Island round 1). Obviously Sylvain likes to weight the front a lot more than Leon does and was happy with the setup at Brno.

Confidence is everything when it comes to setup and feel, and if a rider doesn't feel confident in his bike it will make his performance suffer. Just look at the difference between Fabrizio and Haga until recently to see this. Haga has struggled with confidence this year since his heavy crashes, but there is very little wrong with the bike.
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Trojan
Posted on Wednesday, July 14, 2010 - 08:55 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

More silly season rumours......Colin Edwards to Ducati factory WSB team in 2011?

http://www.twowheelsblog.com/post/4785/more-wsbk-s illy-season-colin-edwards-to-ducati-xerox#continua

There may be no truth in this particular rumour but I suspect his days in MotoGP are numbered unfortunately.

More rumour mongering here....(with nomention of CE though)

http://motomatters.com/opinion/2010/07/13/wsbk_state_of_the_silly_season_dog_days.html

(Message edited by trojan on July 14, 2010)
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Jaimec
Posted on Wednesday, July 14, 2010 - 10:37 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The Green Nail!!
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