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Mcgiver
Posted on Friday, November 27, 2009 - 09:52 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Any clue who is racing Buells? Higbee, Knapp, West?
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Riohondohank
Posted on Friday, November 27, 2009 - 02:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I hope that Eric comes up with enough sponsors to run a full on superbike team and hires my buddy Cory West to ride. Racing at that level is all about money and lots of it.
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Badlionsfan
Posted on Friday, November 27, 2009 - 03:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Nothing has been made official yet.
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Buell2001b
Posted on Friday, November 27, 2009 - 09:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Well if it comes to money, I think it will come who wants to be the next American Sportbike hero since Danny and RMR have announced switching to the dark side!
I will be cheering for any Bueller teams at the tracks
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Riohondohank
Posted on Saturday, November 28, 2009 - 06:22 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

All the riders want to be the hero and a few have the talent, but without megabucks to run a team it's not going to happen no matter what bike your on. AMA ain't club racing. I know from experience having run a couple of privateer efforts over the years.
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Badlionsfan
Posted on Saturday, November 28, 2009 - 10:39 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Buell2001b doesn't get that. He thinks the 1125r/rr is the magic carpet ride of the ama. He's a passionate fan, but needs to learn more about racing works in the real world. 2009 was such a wonderful season for all of us Buell geeks we have a sense of entitlement now or something.
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Fast2win
Posted on Saturday, November 28, 2009 - 11:03 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

When Erik had a job at Buell he was going to launch his own team with his own money. How much of it he can now dedicate to racing is a bit unknown. My opinion would be for him to race Superbike. It would be very beneficial for his co. We all know the bike is good enough, what it takes to win is not only money but a great team to get the bike right every weekend. Eric will have a new team ,(if he decides to race his own bike) that will need time to develop. I think it would be a mistake not to form your own team. If I owned a race co. dedicated to one brand why would you not race that product at some level, DSB or Superbike. High hope's next year for the once again underdog.
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Badlionsfan
Posted on Saturday, November 28, 2009 - 11:31 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I agree if Erik fields a team it would likely be in superbike, since Cory West was on a superbike with Erik Buell Racing listed as the owner at the season finale at NJMP.

I'm looking forward to all this shapes up for 2010 myself.
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Buell2001b
Posted on Thursday, December 03, 2009 - 01:05 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I was watching the other day a documentary on the legend Enzo Ferrari. he has basicly created a template to create a succesfull company. I don't see why Erick Racing could not accomplish similar results.
he has created a brand of fun, fast reliable motorcycles. if he can make his Buells very competetive it will bring sponsorship. i wish buell and all buells racers best of success to make thsi American brand proud.
and you right bad lions i dont know much about the business of racing, but i know about picking winners.
go Buell
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Ponti1
Posted on Thursday, December 03, 2009 - 10:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Shawn Higbee sent out a tweet today with the following article linked, about reduced AMA prize money for 2010. Since it's StupiBikePlanet, I gotta ask if anyone can confirm this news as true?

http://www.superbikeplanet.com/2009/Dec/091202purs einfo.htm

DMG Superbike Death Watch?
by dean adams
Wednesday, December 02, 2009
If you're of the opinion that Superbike racing in America is dying under the management of the Daytona Motorsport Group, last weekend's release of the 2010 purse information for the Superbike class probably did little to convince you that the class is not strapped to a bed with a pillow over its face.

Purse payouts for the Superbike class are dramatically reduced for 2010. According to DMG documents, in the Superbike class The riders earning the three (3) highest point totals on an event weekend will be paid podium bonuses as follows: 1st - $3,500.00, 2nd - $2,000.00, and 3rd - $1,000.00.

Astoundingly, DMG documents suggest that there will be no purse paid for riders or teams finishing past third place in Superbike points on each race weekend.

Daytona Sport Bike, mind you, will also have a reduced purse but still pays a purse to twentieth place. DMG document: The riders earning the twenty (20) highest point totals on an event weekend will be paid purse awards as follows: 1st - $5,000.00, 2nd - $3,000.00, 3rd - $2,000.00, 4th through 10th - $1,500.00 each, and 11th through 20th $1,000.00 each.

Amazingly, finishing third in Superbike points on any given DMG weekend pays as well as twentieth place in DMG's namesake class, Daytona Sport Bike.

At the risk of being obvious, in the past, a Superbike purse paying well down the finishing order was a way for a privateer or support team to help defray expenses, to pay their tire, fuel or hotel bills for the race weekend.

How exactly will smaller teams be able to race the Superbike class? Some of them say that they won't.

DMG came into this fray in a swashbuckling manner. Roger Edmondson said in the March 2008 press conference announcing that DMG was buying AMA Pro Racing "I know this sounds cocky, but forgive me - we know it will be successful. Once the France family decides to move forward on a project, it does not fail." (Link to full transcript)

Their December 2008 press release stated that for the two premier classes, Superbike and Daytona Sport Bike, Each of the premier divisions will offer $125,000 purses at each event with $15,000 going to the top points winner in each class. Second through 20th place finishing positions will earn $5,000 while the remaining finishers through 25th position will be paid $3,000.

Given the resources of the Daytona International Speedway organization and the France family, sponsorship to support those numbers was at that time almost an after-thought.

Simply put, DMG could not deliver on their grandiose purse statements and had to issue a humbling press release before the 2009 Daytona event spelling out that previously released purse amounts were no longer possible.

Sadly, the reality is that Superbike purse payments in 2010 will be at their lowest point in modern AMA Superbike racing history. Not only are they lower than purses offered a just a few years ago, they are less than levels the series paid out in 1997.

Also a reality is that these relatively minuscule purse levels, the Superbike grid is in real danger of ending at the second row. Making its eventual demise easier to justify?
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Buell2001b
Posted on Thursday, December 03, 2009 - 10:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I think they are throwing more money to DSB becuase to be honest it was more fun the the superbike. The Buell brand proving itself to the japps brands made headlines which no other brand could. I saw plenty of people that would never go see AMA go becuase the American brand with danny eslick were fighting to put America first.
I personally never stuck around to see the superbike solely becuase it was all Susuki bikes and Mat Mladin won every race. it was never a race in superbike.
I do hope there is another buell team in DSK to carry the torch since RMR is giving up on the brand that help them get the podium!!
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Ponti1
Posted on Friday, December 04, 2009 - 08:52 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Mat is gone, and we may have an opportunity for 1125RR Superbikes to run this year, so I am definitely interested in keeping the class.

Besides, this is the USA...Bigger, better, faster, more. It is un-American to eliminate the top class or to disrespect it by applying more significance to the middle-weights.

The Daytona Sportbike class would have hardly been as exciting or popular if Danny wasn't out there on the "cheater bike" giving them one hell of a show and lots to gossip about.

Maybe we need to up the purses for Superbike, and put Taylor Knapp and Shawn Higbee in there on a 1190cc, 185 RWHP, Euro-spec Buell!?!?!



(Message edited by ponti1 on December 04, 2009)
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Okoutlaw
Posted on Friday, December 04, 2009 - 03:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

"I personally never stuck around to see the superbike solely becuase it was all Susuki bikes and Mat Mladin won every race. it was never a race in superbike."

I guess Josh Hayes and Larry Pegram were just figments of our imagination.
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Slojon
Posted on Friday, December 04, 2009 - 04:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

RW- almost a week ago...get up to speed...http://www.roadracingworld.com/news/article/?artic le=38827 SUPERBIKE looks done to me. DMG has other plans. Read in CYCLENEWS week or so ago that MotoGP was looking into a different standard with possibility of production based 1000cc engines. MANY variables involved; Mainly $$$$. Some here comprehend but seems MOST are clueless. Out to work on mochines so I can ride after rains stop
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Buell2001b
Posted on Thursday, December 10, 2009 - 11:16 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I would love to see Mat mlading make a come back on a Buell.
after all
he did say
"if i was on the 1125RR and the way the Buell team makes development changes to the bike so quick, I would have a 15 second lead on the on Gixers".lol
it was something very close to this that he said in an interview about Buell in AMA.
After what the heck is he going to do now that he is retired. he should start his own team
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Buell2001b
Posted on Thursday, December 10, 2009 - 11:20 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

okutlaw, if you remeber right mat had the series won almost at half season. even with him not racing at one track he still had plenty of points.
with Mat out there will be opportunity for others, again I think Yamaha will take it all.
both series, unless there is a Buell team
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Blake
Posted on Thursday, December 10, 2009 - 01:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Yamaha sure seems poised to dominate just about everywhere. They must be very happy with their road racing success. Good on 'em.

Slojon,
"Some here comprehend but seems MOST are clueless." Why the personal insult/attack? Stick to issues of interest please.
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