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Uly_dude
Posted on Friday, March 11, 2016 - 04:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Anyone else like those Shinko Raven tires on your Uly? I like the tread design and the price myself. However, these are supposed to be used with a tube.
But over the yrs I've seen some people here write in about mounting these tires on their Uly. Does this work? Or was I misreading something?? The guy I buy tires from and mounts them for me says it shouldn't work. Something about the bead of the tire not fitting right on the Uly's wheels.
If you have any thoughts on this, please chime in. Riding weather here in MN is quickly approaching! And that's a good thing. Thanks for the help. Greg
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Cjanderson_90
Posted on Friday, March 11, 2016 - 04:17 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

If I were you, Id go for the Shinko 705 series tire. get the min the 120/70/17 front and 170/60/17 in the rear from americanmototire.com for a total of $171.42 shipped. Thats my plan.
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Teeps
Posted on Friday, March 11, 2016 - 05:48 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

In the last 10 years, I've mounted and used up 2 sets of Shinko Raven 009 tires on my '06 Ulysses. They are tubeless tires unless marked on the side wall otherwise...
They are not any more or less difficult to mount than the Bridgestone or Continental tires I've also used. I do have access to a Coats pneumatic M/C tire changer, no experience trying to wrestle them on with tire irons.

This time around I'm trying the Shinko Verge tires.
So far they are working just fine for me... your experience may vary, of course.

I find Shinko tires to be a very good bang for the buck. The performance they provide is above my riding needs, so they have worked exceptionally well for me.
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Uly_dude
Posted on Saturday, March 12, 2016 - 10:20 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Thanks for the advice CJ and Teeps. I'll use this info when discussing with my tire guy. I thought he told me the Raven's were tubed. I'll question him on that. Greg
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Teeps
Posted on Saturday, March 12, 2016 - 10:58 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

http://www.bikebandit.com/tires-tubes/motorcycle-t ires/shinko-009-raven-motorcycle-tire

Specifications and OptionsBrand Shinko
Front / Rear Front, Rear
Tire Size 120/60-17, 120/70-17, 160/60-17, 170/60-17, 180/55-17, 190/50-17, 200/50-17
Rim Size 17
Tube / Tubeless Tubeless

Load Index 55, 58, 69, 72, 73, 75
Bias / Radial Radial
Speed Rating W
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Mark_weiss
Posted on Saturday, March 12, 2016 - 10:05 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Running a tire tubeless, on a rim that is designed for a tube, may be possible, but is not a good idea. Bead seat design on tubeless rims is angled so that the tire seats much, much, more tightly as as the bead is seated.

Tube type tires on tubeless rims are no problem, simply fit a tube. Use of the inner tube does cause the tire to run a bit hotter, so knock the tire's speed rating and load range down a notch.

It is safe though.
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