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Okc99
Posted on Saturday, March 17, 2012 - 07:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I just picked up my 2009 Vespa 250! She only had 5 miles on her. Here are some pics. I drove her home 65 miles today and here are my impressions:

I'm six-two, 195, 32 inch inseam.

This sucker is smooth. I didn't go over 55 indicated, but at that speed I truly didn't feel like I was riding on a 12-inch tire. Very stable/smooth. The tall windshield gives you a very quiet ride. I had ear plugs in under my helmet and it was almost too quiet! No buffeting. Torque/pickup at both off the line and at 35mph is more than sufficient. It's confidence inspiring. A 250 cc is really the perfect size and balance for the type of riding I do. Throttle is a little stressing after 20 mins, but the again I haven't been on a bike for 2 years so maybe my muscles will adapt. The seating position is very good for my height and even though I can tell it will hard to sit upright for long distances...that is a good thing! Again, it will build and promote good posture! It's much better than leaning back and putting stress on your tail bone. The Givi E470 (47 liter) is a great match. I thought it might be too big, but it's nice sized and it looks proportional. I'm getting the light kit added to it next week. I did notice a slight burning smell on stops, but thought it must be the new breaks? I did go over 60% throttle because I had to, but I'm not too worried about those hotly contested perfect break-in threads. It's a bike, not a baby : )

Oh, and guess what I'm doing tomorrow morning? I'm going riding!
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Orangeulius
Posted on Sunday, March 18, 2012 - 07:20 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Cool. Enjoy your new ride. Think I'll take your advice and go riding too..
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Eulysses
Posted on Sunday, March 18, 2012 - 04:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Hey...where are those pics? The older Elite from 80's fit my long legs better...kept me upright and knees lower than hips which protects low back. How guys can ride cruisers with knees under their chins with their low backs curved wrong and sometimes on hardtails...wow. So is that scooter a short legger like so many today or for a tall guy?
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Pkforbes87
Posted on Sunday, March 18, 2012 - 11:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Congrats on the new scoot! They're a really economic and fun way to get that 2-wheeled fix.

My 49yo mother just purchased a brand new leftover '09 Yamaha Majesty 400, and has turned it over to me to complete the break-in miles. (yeah - tough job, but someone has to do it! : D)

That sucker is smooooth. It may not be cool to be seen riding a scooter, but a couple hundred miles on this thing has me convinced that a medium to large size scooter would be the way to go for a long distance touring rig. Show me a Goldwing that gets 60mpg! Some research on scooter forums shows that the Suzuki Bergman 400 is a lot more popular than its Yamaha counterpart due to increased size - specifically legroom. At only 5'8", I can see why people would want a little more room to stretch. I could use about another 1" between the seat and floorboard to be more comfortable, but I'm sure my mother at 5"1' will fit it perfectly.

Really looking forward to getting it broken in so I can go find a parking lot and do my best to train a new rider on some of the basics of staying alive!

Also figured out quickly that both the Majesty and my DR-Z400S take the same oil filter element, so that's convenient.
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Uly_man
Posted on Monday, March 19, 2012 - 02:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Pathetic try Dude now "ease-your-mind-with-your-hand" back to your bedroom.
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Okc99
Posted on Tuesday, March 20, 2012 - 06:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Sorry boys, here she is. http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p213/royalspoil /2012-03-17181039.jpg
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Okc99
Posted on Tuesday, March 20, 2012 - 06:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Files are too big, so all I have are these links.

http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p213/royalspoil /2012-03-17145938.jpg
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Hooper
Posted on Wednesday, March 21, 2012 - 11:31 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Oh man. Cue "Quadrophenia"!
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Eulysses
Posted on Wednesday, March 21, 2012 - 08:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Made my heart leap! Sick eh? Still looks like a short-er-legged guy ride. Seat could be modded though...
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Okc99
Posted on Thursday, March 22, 2012 - 12:36 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I know, I know, she's a beast ain't she? I'm riding her back to DC in July when I move instead of paying $700 to ship her. I might get a Pirate seat to make a more firm seat.
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Electraglider_1997
Posted on Thursday, March 22, 2012 - 10:16 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Looks like a nice comfortable serene way to while away the hours. I'd think about getting a scooter if the rear brake was a right foot pedal so that it was like a regular motorcycle set up. As is, I'd be trying to use the clutch all the time through force of habit and that would certainly spell doom for me. Old dog, new trick kind of deal. Do any scooters use a brake pedal? Vespas are works of art.
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Timberwolf
Posted on Thursday, March 22, 2012 - 10:41 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I've seen some scooters that have no left hand lever and the F/R brakes are linked on the right lever.
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Okc99
Posted on Saturday, March 24, 2012 - 05:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Check out right foot well on this one and you'll see a pedal. Some vintage scooters do have a foot pedal. You can see it here. I also sat on one in the shop where I bought "Felix".


http://www.flickr.com/photos/42236865@N05/5729830915/
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Tastroman
Posted on Saturday, March 24, 2012 - 06:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

" Do any scooters use a brake pedal? Vespas are works of art."


85-88 Honda Elite 250's have a rear foot brake pedal. A great scooter I might add.

I commute on a 250cc scooter with a left rear brake lever and use my Buell for weekend excursions and switching between the 2 has never caused me any troubles. Believe me, they ride so entirely different it's almost impossible to get the 2 mixed up.
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Fltwistygirl
Posted on Saturday, March 24, 2012 - 06:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The "Fashions" also have a rear brake pedal.
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Court
Posted on Saturday, March 24, 2012 - 07:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

My scooter only has a rear brake and the pedal is on the floor.
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Kenm123t
Posted on Saturday, March 24, 2012 - 10:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Court most here don't know what a Cushman is If they have heard of Cushman they are thinking of the Little 3 wheel trash trucks or security guard haulers lol
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Eulysses
Posted on Sunday, March 25, 2012 - 01:28 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I had a Cushman. And a Tote Goat and a Mountaineer by Yard Marvel. Before I got my Harley Hummer. Then a Tohatsu Runpet Sport...then 4 80 Yamaha's in a row...then...oops..sorry. Thread thief.
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Tastroman
Posted on Sunday, March 25, 2012 - 07:15 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I'm surprised for some reason to see so many here with a scooter background.
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Rdkingryder
Posted on Sunday, March 25, 2012 - 12:34 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I bought a 2001 Scarabeo 150. Unfortunately then engine is bad on it, worst than my Ulysses. LOL! It's my next project. I was hoping it was going to be an easy fix. I was wrong.



I wanted it ready for this,

http://www.motorscooterlandspeedfederation.org/eve nts/salton_sea/salton_sea.html

but since it's today, I think I'm going to miss it.


(Message edited by rdkingryder on March 25, 2012)

(Message edited by rdkingryder on March 25, 2012)
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Pkforbes87
Posted on Monday, March 26, 2012 - 03:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

To those concerned about grabbing the brake thinking it's a clutch:

I regularly ride 3 different bikes.. The XT with a clutch and a 1up4down shift pattern, the Suzuki DRZ with a clutch and a 1down4up shift pattern, and a Yamaha Majesty with a left hand rear brake lever and no clutch. I won't say I've never shifted the wrong direction on either of the motorcycles, or that I've never grabbed a giant handful of rear brake while rolling to a stop on the scooter, but it's really not a big deal. Takes some extra focus to remember how everything works, but I think the constant change has made me a better rider in general. I'm forced to pay attention to what I'm doing every time I ride. There is no opportunity to get into a comfort zone and become complacent.

The only thing I would recommend when switching like this is to stick to one specific bike for a while leading up to any riding that will push the limits. I plan on attending the S2 gathering in Eureka Springs in June, and will definitely be exclusively riding my XT for a couple weeks prior. The control mechanisms should probably be second nature before I go tearing through the Ozark mountains.
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Motorbike
Posted on Monday, March 26, 2012 - 04:50 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

PKforbes87, Why did you switch the XT to a GP shift pattern? What is the advantage? Do you race? Thanks.
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Pkforbes87
Posted on Monday, March 26, 2012 - 05:48 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Switched mostly out of curiosity, and fell in love with it quickly. I've never raced, only done 1 track day, and I probably don't lean far enough to run into clearance issues with my boot under a shift lever.

It feels much more natural on a bike with a sporting seating position (shoulders forward of hips) to press down during upshifts. On my DRZ, (shoulders directly above hips) it would feel natural either way, but I am currently looking at ways to convert it to a gp pattern as well.

In my opinion, the standard 1down4up pattern is used simply because it's the standard that has been used since times when every bike in the world positioned the rider with their shoulders behind their hips. All 01+ air-cooled Buells that I know of can be reversed for free just by flipping the part of the shift linkage that clamps to the shaft coming out the side if the primary. Try it, get used to it for a couple weeks, and I'd bet you won't ever want to go back.
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