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Jim_williams
Posted on Sunday, April 04, 2010 - 07:05 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Everything I've read it seems like what I'm looking for. My only concern is how this gearing is on long trips and Iron Butt type riding. Does the gearing wear on you?

I don't need to go faster than 80 pretty much ever, but, I really want to get there faster!
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Ulynut
Posted on Sunday, April 04, 2010 - 07:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Check it out for yourself.

4th gear at 80 mph with the 12 is the same as 5th gear at 80 mph with the 9 primary conversion.

Does that make sense?
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Froggy
Posted on Sunday, April 04, 2010 - 11:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Yea just ride around without hitting 5th gear, that will simulate the XB9 gearing except for you won't experience the extra low first gear. The ratios are pretty close to what they would actually be with the XB9 conversion. Personally I wouldn't do it if you slab that much, hell I want to go the other way on mine and add taller gearing to reduce the cruising RPM more.
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Cityxslicker
Posted on Monday, April 05, 2010 - 02:00 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

hell I would love to run a granny gear for puttin off road.... when is that XL 6 from Baker gonna get more cost effective?
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Natexlh1000
Posted on Monday, April 05, 2010 - 07:41 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I agree with both Cityslicker and Froggy : )
I would like a crawler first gear for traffic and stump jumping and also an extra tall top gear.
You know, a first gear that you wouldn't use under normal driving?

As it was shipped, it is quite good though.
If I had the cases split at any time, I would probably look into playing around with the ratios a bit.
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Electraglider_1997
Posted on Monday, April 05, 2010 - 10:49 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Hadn't even heard of the XL-6 so I googled it.
http://www.bikernet.com/garage/xl6-1.asp
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Rcinclt
Posted on Monday, April 05, 2010 - 01:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

My vote would be for an XB9 tranny with a 6th gear. That would be perfect for me and my Uly.
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Blasterd
Posted on Monday, April 05, 2010 - 01:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Or an XB9 tranny with a tall 5th would be ok with me.
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Spectra
Posted on Monday, April 05, 2010 - 01:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I don't think the Baker 6 speed will work on a xb?
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Towpro
Posted on Monday, April 05, 2010 - 04:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I called my dealer and asked. He is waiting for a call back from Baker. I think he said The catalog shows for Buell through 1997.

I see Baker makes different size front sprockets also. Wonder if they make one that is one tooth smaller.
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Froggy
Posted on Monday, April 05, 2010 - 04:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The Baker only works on Sportster based Buell's. Also, they cost about as much as a used Uly, so they aren't even worth the price of admission.
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Electraglider_1997
Posted on Monday, April 05, 2010 - 06:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

It is "probably" only a matter of time before Harley upgrades Sportsters to a 6 speed tranny. That is the way they get customers to buy the new bikes. New and improved.
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Thrux181
Posted on Monday, April 05, 2010 - 07:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

At 75 MPH it's 4000 RPM
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Eulysses
Posted on Monday, April 05, 2010 - 08:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

4000 vs what in 5th w/o the kit at 75mph? Would mileage be that affected?
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Froggy
Posted on Monday, April 05, 2010 - 10:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

4000 RPM is approx 80 miles per hour in 5th with XB12 gearing. I noticed lower measurably lower fuel economy during my testing by keeping the bike in 4th.
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Tootal
Posted on Monday, April 05, 2010 - 10:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

As Thrux181 said, 4000 is 75 mph with XB9 gearing. 4th gear w/XB12 gearing is 70 mph. 4th gear will be close to XB9 gearing but not exactly. I show 3800 rpm at 70 mph w/XB9. My bike is smoother at that rpm than the stock 3400 rpm at 70 mph. It does not wear on you at all and my mileage is roughly the same. The direction of the wind would have more effect than the gearing. If you do off road or city riding I highly recommend it. If you slab it all the time I wouldn't mess with it. If your passing on the interstate there is no wait for speed with the lower gearing, it's point and shoot, I love it.
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Jsg4dfan
Posted on Monday, April 05, 2010 - 11:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Tootal is on the right track -- I am fortunate enough to have both an XB9S and a Uly. Fourth on the Uly is a bit shorter than than fifth on the 9. It's close, but not quite the same. I have the kit to change my Uly, and will report my findings when I take that step.
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Eulysses
Posted on Monday, April 05, 2010 - 11:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Got my kit...just waiting to see how I really ride this thing. I was blessed with two months in AZ this winter...really got my mojo going...lot of town (wishing for XB9) and not wishing on the highway...but needing to slow down. That bike just wants to RUN like a thoroughbred. Thinking the XB9 would keep me at reasonable highway speeds. Saw 3 bad bike accidents on the highway while riding. God is telling me something.
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Cityxslicker
Posted on Tuesday, April 06, 2010 - 03:13 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I need something with a lower threshhold friction zone/idle so I can run ....


Fried a clutch on that weekend....
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Billyo
Posted on Tuesday, April 06, 2010 - 04:32 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

What parts are needed? Just the front sprocket, chain, and gaskets?
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Thrux181
Posted on Tuesday, April 06, 2010 - 09:57 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

What Tootal said. My gas mileage didn't change. Where I'am at, it averages around 45 mpg. Eulysses, It does keep me closer to the "speed limit" now. I can't remember the parts needed. If someone doesn't have that handy, let me know and I will go dig around in the paper work.
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Jim_williams
Posted on Tuesday, April 06, 2010 - 11:49 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Thanks guys. I'll be placing the order with American Sport Bike this afternoon. What/any specialized tools needed to do the swap? I have the manual. Just haven't looked through it yet.

Here's the link for those unaware of parts needed
http://www.americansportbike.com/shoponline/ccp0-p rodshow/A17192.html
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Billyo
Posted on Tuesday, April 06, 2010 - 12:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Thanks Jim.
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Tipsymcstagger
Posted on Tuesday, April 06, 2010 - 05:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

If anyone is interested...I have a kit for an '08 that I'm probably not going to install.

I purchased this from American SB.

Tipsy
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Jim_williams
Posted on Tuesday, April 06, 2010 - 05:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Tipsy, PM sent.
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Eulysses
Posted on Tuesday, April 06, 2010 - 06:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Ok City...what you doing on those tracks? Hope you don't get stuck on a long tressle near a busy yard So you need a low/low for these? I was thinking it would be better fast.
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Tootal
Posted on Tuesday, April 06, 2010 - 07:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Here's a link to the thread I did when installing mine. The torque on the crank nut is different/upgraded from the manual so read the whole thread and get the updated info before putting it all back together.

http://www.badweatherbikers.com/buell/messages/142 838/425775.html?1230619985
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Skinstains
Posted on Friday, April 09, 2010 - 11:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

How about tossin' the rubber band and putting a chain on ? I've done it to four and will be making it five real soon. The Uly is the only belt I have left and I hate it.
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Froggy
Posted on Friday, April 09, 2010 - 11:30 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I still want to buy your belt! : )
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Bryn1203
Posted on Monday, April 12, 2010 - 04:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Skinstains

why do you hate belts ?

I am loosing faith in them & have broken two.
But they are quiet, clean & easy to change !

(Message edited by bryn1203 on April 12, 2010)

(Message edited by bryn1203 on April 12, 2010)
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