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Sharkguy
Posted on Monday, September 21, 2009 - 05:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Rode my 94 BMWR 1100RS over to Daytona to demo the Uly. Well now I want one! I have always bought used bikes and will probably look for a good used one. I was impressed with the handling and lack of vibration while underway. I have had a chance to check out some of the problems associated with the bike and believe it or not I still want one. The BMW has been a problem child but I've figured most of it's problems out and have it running pretty good. Most of the used ones I've checked out are 06s. Is this a year to avoid? I know there have been constant refinements, but are there that many real differences? I believe the one I rode was an 09. The only problem I had with it was when I tried trail braking like I do on the beemer in a curve Wow what a surprise! Felt like it was going to buck me off. I guess the riding style takes some getting used to? Well, I'll continue my search. Wish me luck
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Electraglider_1997
Posted on Monday, September 21, 2009 - 05:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

1956 was a very good year. Try this link
http://www.jaxed.com/cgi-bin/mash.cgi?cat=cpmoto&i tm=buell&loc=&fil=XB12X&ys=&ye=&ps=&pe=&pgs=50&sub mit=++++go++++
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Ulynut
Posted on Monday, September 21, 2009 - 05:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

http://www.badweatherbikers.com/buell/messages/142 838/442053.html?1238017122

Some good info here.

As far as trail braking, easy does it. I do it with my Uly. Takes some practice, and I'm no Rossi.
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Sharkguy
Posted on Monday, September 21, 2009 - 08:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Thanks for the info Electaglider, I was wondering how to bring up all the Craigslist bikes for sale. Now I know. Yep, it was a good year wasn't it! Thanks for the link too Ulynut. Looks like I got some studying to do.
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Ratbuell
Posted on Monday, September 21, 2009 - 09:57 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Not a lick of trouble out of my '06 in 7500ish miles. And they weren't gentle miles, either.

I know. The mileage is low. Bought it new in April '08, spent nearly four months out of commission later that year, and have 2 other Buells to keep occupied...but it (the Uly) truly is the abused stepchild. Always run hard, always put away wet, never (well, nearly) out in good weather, and never (literally) washed. Not once.
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Jlnance
Posted on Monday, September 21, 2009 - 11:17 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Shark - 06 is a good year. It has a few problems, but they are known problems and they all have fixes now.

The largest change happened in 2008. That was the year the motor got a new oil pump and ECM. Those changes are not retrofittable to earlier models. All the other changes are.
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M2nc
Posted on Monday, September 21, 2009 - 11:17 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The '06 was the first year and like any first year production models, it has more to correct or improve than later models. I am almost to four years with an '06 Uly and 46,000 miles. I am very happy with the bike and if you look at my profile you will see the history I have had with the bike since new. The good news is that almost everything that is upgraded on '10 model, can be retrofitted on the '06 model.
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Towpro
Posted on Tuesday, September 22, 2009 - 07:32 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

If you go back one level on this site, you will see "New Ulysses Owner Information"
click on that link and it will show you the differences on the different models.
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Florida_lime
Posted on Tuesday, September 22, 2009 - 08:20 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I have no issues at all with trail braking, and I road raced for 7 years.
Maybe tire choice plays a part.
My wife had the first year XB9R Firebolt, and that DEFINITELY had an issue with trail braking.
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Babired
Posted on Tuesday, September 22, 2009 - 08:28 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

that's interesting I trail brake on my X1 all of the time, front brake, in curves. The Uly is a little buzzy but I do it while teaching Total Control and riding the demos for the students. Can you tell me more...
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Etennuly
Posted on Tuesday, September 22, 2009 - 08:39 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I bought my '06 new. Problems? Yep. Fixed without the use of the dealer shops. Service Manual, some mechanical experience, BadWeB help plan. Three and a half years and 42,000 miles. It doesn't get better than this!

No, you cannot have it.


Owning one is the only way to understand permagrin.
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Babired
Posted on Tuesday, September 22, 2009 - 08:54 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

permagrin I love it!
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Froggy
Posted on Tuesday, September 22, 2009 - 10:29 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The rear brake gets better once they get a little use. I almost ran into traffic once on my new 1125CR due to its lack of rear break, but after about 1200 miles or so it breaks fine now. : )
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Florida_lime
Posted on Tuesday, September 22, 2009 - 10:43 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I almost ran into traffic once on my new 1125CR due to its lack of rear break, but after about 1200 miles or so it breaks fine now.

It would be a shame to have two Buells all pug-nosed a la Froggy !


Maybe it's time to start using those 8 piston calipers in front HARDER !
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Blake
Posted on Tuesday, September 22, 2009 - 12:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Hitting the brakes after already being leaned over is not "trail braking".

Trail braking is braking well ahead of the turn and continuing to do so through to the apex. Hitting the brake after already leaned over is not trail braking; it's just braking.

Abruptly hitting the brake while leaned over is never a good idea.

Easy does it.

Suspension setup has major effect on handling including effect of front brake when leaned over.
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Mnrider
Posted on Tuesday, September 22, 2009 - 02:50 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Why is he flipping us off?
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Babired
Posted on Tuesday, September 22, 2009 - 03:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

don't know
I am interested on what kind of feedback the bike is giving him while trail braking in turns. I learn more with stuff like this to make me a better instructor.
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Sayitaintso
Posted on Tuesday, September 22, 2009 - 04:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Why is he flipping us off?

I wonder if its the advrider salute or just say FU?
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Jim_williams
Posted on Tuesday, September 22, 2009 - 06:25 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Just find one, and, buy it. I just got home on my new 09 XP. 1400 miles, not a hiccup and man what a fun bike! I won't miss my big GS at all!
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Sharkguy
Posted on Tuesday, September 22, 2009 - 08:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Thanks for all the input everyone. As far as the trail braking I started applying the rear brake before entering the turn and the bike had just starting to lean and the bike started sort of jackhammering (for lack of a better term)so I let up on it quick. I must make note here that the suspension was set up rater stiff (not by me but by the demo guys)I made mention of it to the demo guy leading the ride and he stated that he set it up stiffer because he likes it set up this way. He also pointed out that I should have used the adjuster on the fly to soften up the rear end. Hey, it was a new bike and a new to me riding style. So I wasn't about to mess with it on the fly in a group. I have never experienced this with any of my beemers or my KLR. Of course the brakes are so sorry on the KLR that it probably would be impossible. I'm sure if it was set up correctly it wouldn't have happened. Just a bit unnerving is all. Sorry, I wasn't flipping you all off I thought that was a thumbs up. Now that I look at it closer it is the bird. OK so I'm off to a great start on here. Sorry if I offended anyone, definetly not my intention. Nope not an advrider. I do have a KLR but don't consider myself one of the advriders. I have gleaned lots of info from their site though. Not to dis the earlier models but I will probably look for an 08. The mods on it seem great. Thanks again and sorry for finger.
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Froggy
Posted on Tuesday, September 22, 2009 - 10:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

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Mnrider
Posted on Wednesday, September 23, 2009 - 11:10 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Your forgiven.
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Etennuly
Posted on Wednesday, September 23, 2009 - 11:32 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

..............


Sounds like it was set way too stiff. I run my Uly X on the quite soft side. I rode dirt bikes for years and like it that way. I got on a demo bike that was set up that way, it does make a huge difference. Leaves you braking hard on the straight to be off the brake in the corner, and it will feel like the back end is pushing you through the corner.

I run that rear adjuster knob on the first notches when solo and crank it all of the way up when toting passengers. For the solo part I tune the ride with the shock dampener that is on the shock reservoir under the seat.
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Svh
Posted on Wednesday, September 23, 2009 - 11:52 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Did you downshift going into the corner? Could the bucking have been because the bike was in to high of a gear and you were trying to stop the motor too? That is the only time I have gotten anything like bucking was coming to a stop in 2nd gear not 1st like I thought.
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Dmmblaze
Posted on Wednesday, September 23, 2009 - 12:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)





These are pretty low key fingers. I never knew they were there. Learn something new everyday, hehehe. Thanks Sharkguy for the heads (birds)up and good luck on the Uly hunt. I think you will be happy with any year.
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Babired
Posted on Wednesday, September 23, 2009 - 02:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

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Sharkguy
Posted on Wednesday, September 23, 2009 - 04:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Etennuly, I think the suspension was too stiff. I was in second gear and had started rear braking and accelerating as I entered the sweep, however, as soon as I entered the sweep the bike started jacking, not like the bogging type you mentioned Svh. This seemed a combo of the motor and the rear suspension. As soon as I let off the rear brake it quit and I steered through the sweeper. Maybe the brakes were that touchy and I put too much pressure on them? Anyway, freaked me out. I'd never had a bike do that before. Dmmblaze, glad I could enlighten someone about the low key bird. Now maybe someone can teach me about correct emotocon etiquette use with a small screen laptop! Ok I'm gone.
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Portero72
Posted on Wednesday, September 23, 2009 - 07:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

'Rear braking and accelerating' at the same time is at cross purposes-the acceleration/throttle is trying to spin the rear wheel faster, while rear braking is trying to slow it down. No wonder it freaked you out. I'm sure the suspension had nothing to do with it, and the engine power pulses trying to overcome the rear brake had everything to do with it.

Having said that, I'm sure minds greater than mine will soon correct me.
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Svh
Posted on Wednesday, September 23, 2009 - 10:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Portero thats what I was thinking it might be.
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Blake
Posted on Thursday, September 24, 2009 - 11:10 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

>>> As far as the trail braking I started applying the rear brake before entering the turn and the bike had just starting to lean and the bike started sort of jackhammering ... I was in second gear and had started rear braking and accelerating as I entered the sweep, however, as soon as I entered the sweep the bike started jacking ... As soon as I let off the rear brake it quit and I steered through the sweeper.

I think you need to take Babired's course before you kill yourself.
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Tginnh
Posted on Thursday, September 24, 2009 - 07:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

http://www.webbikeworld.com/books/sp-riding-techni ques.htm

http://www.leeparksdesign.com/eshopprod_cat_530-30 196_product_72946.Total_Control.htm
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