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Ulykan
Posted on Friday, April 10, 2009 - 08:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

What are people using instead of loctite on their oil drain plug? I went to Auto Zone and O'Reilly's and neither have it.
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Hughlysses
Posted on Friday, April 10, 2009 - 09:08 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

It's Loctite's version of teflon pipe thread sealant. Go to Home Depot, Lowes, etc. and pick up their equivalent in the plumbing section.

Some people leave it off since the plug has an o-ring.
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Xbimmer
Posted on Friday, April 10, 2009 - 09:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Permatex Item #56521 High Performance Thread Sealant. Permatex owns Loctite or vice versa.

I always use it myself every change, and with a new o-ring. Every o-ring has looked trashed on plug removal.
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Crusty
Posted on Friday, April 10, 2009 - 09:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I'm using Loctite 545.
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Ulykan
Posted on Friday, April 10, 2009 - 09:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Thanks guys, I'll go to Lowes tomorrow.
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Gamdh
Posted on Friday, April 10, 2009 - 10:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I have been getting mine online from Midway Auto Supply...

http://www.midwayautosupply.com/p-12023-loctite-56 5-pst-thread-sealant-controlled-strength-50-ml-tub e-37396.aspx
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Ulykan
Posted on Friday, April 10, 2009 - 11:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I have been getting mine online from Midway Auto Supply..I saw the link but I'm sure I can find it locally or probably I'll just go to Lowes and buy a similar product. Thanks for the link.
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Thetable
Posted on Friday, April 10, 2009 - 11:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I am using Permatex High Temp Thread Sealant, because that is what I had on the shelf. (Originally purchased when I had to do injectors on my 7.3 IDI.) It has been dealing with higher temps and more vibration on my diesel than I think it ever will on my bike.
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Ulykan
Posted on Saturday, April 11, 2009 - 12:05 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I am using Permatex High Temp Thread Sealant You must not be having any problems with it. Does your drain plug unscrew without trouble? That sounds like a less expensive option than Loctite 565. Why wouldn't teflon tape work just as well? I have that.
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Ourdee
Posted on Saturday, April 11, 2009 - 12:33 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

TEFLON TAPE?
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Xbimmer
Posted on Saturday, April 11, 2009 - 09:10 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Gamdh's link to the Loctite product shows the same large 50ml tube as the Permatex version #56521. A little goes a long way, and it works very well. IIRC I got mine at NAPA, since nobody locally including my HD dealer carried the Loctite version.

At first I was a little leery of drain plugs that required a sealant but to date I've never had the slightest leak, and once the stuff cures the plugs stay put. That allows me to ignore the factory torque spec and comfortably just snug the plugs. The Permatex is good stuff and more available, at least around here.
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Ulykan
Posted on Saturday, April 11, 2009 - 10:03 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Will teflon tape not work and if not, why?
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Fung
Posted on Saturday, April 11, 2009 - 10:30 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I guess i would think that stringy little parts of the tape may get in the oil? Just a thought.
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Ulynut
Posted on Saturday, April 11, 2009 - 10:37 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Oh boy! Here we go again!

Do a search on teflon tape. Please. Its the funniest thread yet.
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Ulykan
Posted on Saturday, April 11, 2009 - 10:37 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Good thought Fung. I guess that could happen and cause problems. Thanks. I'll just get some Permatex or a product like it at Lowes.
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Hughlysses
Posted on Saturday, April 11, 2009 - 02:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I think the stuff mainly serves as a very low strength thread locker. It provides sealing, but it mainly prevents the oil plug from loosening and backing out of the drain hole.

Teflon tape would not provide that function.
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Ulykan
Posted on Saturday, April 11, 2009 - 02:34 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Got a can of Teflon thread seal @ Lowes for $6, I doubt that I'll need any more for awhile. Thanks everyone.
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