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Froggy
| Posted on Sunday, March 29, 2009 - 12:27 am: |
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Long story short, my brand new brake line for my ZTL2 setup rubbed my tire, and now there is a hole in my line. Can it be fixed or is do I need to replace the line? |
Thetable
| Posted on Sunday, March 29, 2009 - 01:07 am: |
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My answer is based on my general knowledge of brake hoses, not Buell specific, so if there is anything special about the hose on the ZTL2 setup, disregard my answer. PTFE lines are covered with braided stainless to protect the PTFE from being abraded, sliced or kinked, as far as braking functionality, it does nothing. The plastic on top of the stainless braiding seals out contaminants that could potentially damage either the stainless or the PTFE hose inside, either through chemical reaction or abrasion (imagine sand working its way into the stainless in such a way that that it could abrade the PTFE hose. I don't know exactly which part you wore through, but the plastic, I would replace in a year or so. If I were feeling particularly motivated, I would put a little heat shrink around the spot or maybe even some the the liquid electrical tape. If you made it through the stainless, I would go ahead and order the replacement and continue to ride until it came. |
Froggy
| Posted on Sunday, March 29, 2009 - 01:12 am: |
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I got brake juice spewing over my rims, and it gave me a pucker moment as the line blew during a stoppie. |
Froggy
| Posted on Sunday, March 29, 2009 - 01:14 am: |
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I didn't pick up on it before, but this picture from the other day shows it rubbing. It took a few hundred miles before it wore to the point of failure. You can see how it ate a small bit of the edge of the tire.
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Thetable
| Posted on Sunday, March 29, 2009 - 01:36 am: |
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Oh, you really rubbed through it. Bad news, DOT specifications require a fittings to be permanently attached, so replacement. Nothing you can really do to repair the spot (it's Teflon, nothing sticks to Teflon), and even if you could, you wouldn't want to as the line pressures can get really high, really quickly. I haven't put a gauge on a bike, but in a race car, line pressures of over 1500psi aren't unusual. DOT standards also require the hoses to be run up to 7000psi without rupturing. |
Mnrider
| Posted on Sunday, March 29, 2009 - 01:56 am: |
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That brake fluid will eat the paint and almost anything else it gets on. |
Chrisrogers3
| Posted on Sunday, March 29, 2009 - 10:15 am: |
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With the amount of pressure that goes through a brake like your best bet is to replace it. Better be safe than sorry and the line is only like 40 bucks. |
Tq_freak
| Posted on Sunday, March 29, 2009 - 11:37 am: |
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They are brakes, and the front at that. Replace and learn from the mistake |
4cammer
| Posted on Sunday, March 29, 2009 - 03:34 pm: |
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Repaired brake line? Not a chance. Kind of like using a repaired Trojan.....might work, most likely not. |
Froggy
| Posted on Sunday, March 29, 2009 - 03:42 pm: |
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I was going to replace it from the start, I have to ride 82 miles and get it fixed. No big deal, I don't use the front much anyway. |
Froggy
| Posted on Sunday, April 05, 2009 - 01:20 am: |
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Son of a bitch! http://www-odi.nhtsa.dot.gov/recalls/results.cfm?r cl_id=09V109000&searchtype=quicksearch&summary=tru e&refurl=rss At least I know I am not a total retard! |
Etennuly
| Posted on Sunday, April 05, 2009 - 09:54 am: |
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Having read that, I just don't see how it lets you off the retard line. |
Teeps
| Posted on Sunday, April 05, 2009 - 10:50 am: |
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Recall or not, your self deprecation with regard to mental development is accurate, because I do not see a lower mud guard in the photo. The lower mud guard has a brake hose stay built in to prevent just this problem. No mud guard, no warranty. However if the bike has an outstanding recall, in this case the front brake line. Regardless of the current form, the recall must be performed. Put the stock brake (caliper) back on and the mud guard and get it to the dealer. They have to do the recall; it's the LAW. |
Etennuly
| Posted on Sunday, April 05, 2009 - 11:30 am: |
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Uh Oh, Teeps just got on the short bus with you! That brake set up is not stock on his bike, he put it there and zip tied the brake hose to the wheel spokes because of not having the fender. |
Froggy
| Posted on Sunday, April 05, 2009 - 01:16 pm: |
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Teeps, my bike is a XB, and only the Ulysses models have the mud guard that holds the brake line. This recall applies to bikes that have the normal small XB fender, so even if I was using that instead of the XB12STT fork guards, I still could have this issue. The problem is with the brake line routing, as the 09 1125's have it routed a little differently. As for it being a recall/warranty item, I can't honestly say for sure it will be covered. The entire brake system isn't stock on my bike. Hell, not much other than the frame and engine internals are stock on my bike. |
Teeps
| Posted on Sunday, April 05, 2009 - 06:17 pm: |
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My mistake, Etennuly. Stupid me I didn't notice it said Lightening on the engine badge. |
Etennuly
| Posted on Sunday, April 05, 2009 - 08:50 pm: |
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Teeps, Sorry, I poked you in the eye! I need a life.....damn this economic state of being! |
Teeps
| Posted on Monday, April 06, 2009 - 10:43 am: |
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Hey no need to be sorry Etennuly. It's totally my fault for thinking froggy's bike was a Ulysses. Especially since the post was in the "Big, Bad & Dirty (Buell XB12X Ulysses Adventure Board)." Some times I don't see the obvious. As far as the recall goes; now knowing froggy's bike is not stock. froggy is, by law, "entitled" to the counter measure for the original defect. He is not "entitled" any other replacement parts I.E. the brake line. Since the bike is modified and is not as delivered new by Buell. Of course the dealer can warranty the brake line, too, if they choose. |
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