| Author | Message | ||
     Jayfredweb |
How many Uly's? (From the archives) http://www.badweatherbikers.com/buell/messages/142 838/371385.html?1127771764 Trying to revive a dead (and archived) thread didn't seem to work, so I'll just start a new one. See previous thread above. I'm interested to know if anyone has any further input or knowledge about the PRODUCTION NUMBER correlation with the SEQUENTIAL NUMBER in the Vin. The only reason I care is because I just purchased #002 of the '06 Uly. Not for bragging rights..., just curious. 111 22 33 4 5 6 7 8 99999 1. WMI code 2. Model (2 characters) 3. Engine type (2 characters) 4. Horespower code (1 character) 5. V.I.N. check digit (1 character) 6. Model year (1 character) 7. Assembly plant (1 character) 8. Calibration (1 character) 9. Sequential number (5 characters) | ||
| Jayfredweb |
I guess my question is if there "is" a correlation or if the sequential number just "varies" like the manual says???? | ||
| Nutsosane |
By that code my first Uly (2006) was # 04043 purchased in August 2006. NVTS | ||
| Aeholton |
My last 5 is "00446" with a manufacture date of July 05. Purchased in Sept. 05. | ||
| Sprintex |
00965 for the 2006 I just bought. | ||
| Petereid |
I've got an 08 last 5 are 00474 | ||
| Jayfredweb |
Well no one is really answering the question, but this might be a fun way too. 2006 bikes only (for now) How to decipher V.I.N. (plagiarized from the 2006 Buell XB12X Owner's Manual): 111 22 33 4 5 6 7 8 99999 Manufactured BEFORE May 2005) 1. WMI code • 4MZ = Buell vehicles originally manufactured for sale WITHIN the United States • 5MZ = Buell vehicles originally manufactured for sale OUTSIDE the United States 2. Model (2 characters) • DX = Ulysses 3. Engine type (2 characters) • 14 = 1203cc (world) 4. Horsepower code (1 character) • J = 86-103 hp 5. V.I.N. check digit (1 character) • Can be 0-9 or X 6. Model year (1 character) • 6 = 2006 7. Assembly Plant (1 character) • 3 = East Troy, WI 8. Calibration (1 character) • 0 = US calibration (DOM, CAL & CAN markets) • 1 = EU calibration (EUR, ENG & AUS markets) • 2 = US calibration (Japan calibration JPN market) 9. Sequential number (5 characters) • Varies Manufactured AFTER May 2005 1. WMI code • 4MZ = Buell vehicles originally manufactured for sale WITHIN the United States • 5MZ = Buell vehicles originally manufactured for sale OUTSIDE the United States 2. Model (2 characters) • DX = Ulysses 3. Engine type (2 characters) • 14 = 1203cc (world) 4. Market configuration (1 character) • A = Australia • L = California • N = Canada • D = Domestic • E = England • R = Europe (formerly HDI) • J = Japan 5. V.I.N. check digit (1 character) • Can be 0-9 or X 6. Model year (1 character) • 6 = 2006 7. Assembly Plant (1 character) • 3 = East Troy, WI 8. Model (1 character) • 7 = XB12X 9. Sequential number (5 characters) • Varies | ||
| Ft_bstrd |
"1984"   November 05 (Message edited by ft_bstrd on June 25, 2008) | ||
| Jayfredweb |
So feel free to add to the list. We will need the Manufacturing Date (month and year) and the last 5 digits of the VIN. Jayfredweb 00002 March 2005 Aeholton 00446 July 2005 Sprintex 00965 __________ Feel free to cut and paste... | ||
| Rotorhead |
Jayfredweb 00002 March 2005 Aeholton 00446 July 2005 Sprintex 00965 __________ Rotorhead 01084 SEP 2005 | ||
| Froggy |
 Jayfredweb 00002 March 2005 Aeholton 00446 July 2005 Sprintex 00965 __________ Rotorhead 01084 SEP 2005 Froggy 02118 Dec 2005 | ||
| 05mxdiesel |
#2578 manufactured Jan 2006. Purchased April 07 | ||
| Jayfredweb |
Jayfredweb 00002 MAR 05 Aeholton 00446 JUL 05 Al_lighton 00461 JUL 05 Rkc00 00533 JUL 05 Csg_inc 00426 AUG 05 (**our first flaw in theory**) Rotorhead 01084 SEP 05 Froggy 02118 DEC 05 05mxdiesel 02578 JAN 06 | ||
| Ft_bstrd |
Why would the serial number be "random"? It wouldn't be a "serial" number if it were. | ||
| Nevrenuf |
xt=A00070 | ||
| Jayfredweb |
Why would the serial number be "random"? It wouldn't be a "serial" number if it were. It's not a "serial" number it is a "V.I.N." (vehicle identification number). | ||
| Rotorhead |
This is my take on the whole S/N VIN theory. On a production line the S/N or VIN maybe in sequence but the day it roll out it may not. If a bike fails in testing or somewhere along the line they find issues in manufacturing the bike goes back in line. this may take a while to get things fixed. Only when it passes final inspection it gets a manufacture date. This is why i think the vin is on the metal of the bike and the manufacture date is on a sticker. | ||
| Ft_bstrd |
Name another vehicle whose VIN isn't sequential. I agree that they may not roll out the door exactly in order, but they will be within the same production month. It would be much harder to generate random numbers than to simply run them in series. | ||
| Paul56 |
It's also possible that the sequential numbers apply to all Buell vin's (all models); the model information being contained elsewhere in the vin. | ||
| Ft_bstrd |
My understanding is that all of Buell's VINs contain a sequential model production run number. I believe it's the last 5 digits. | ||
| Dick_stilton |
Jayfredweb 00002 MAR 05 Aeholton 00446 JUL 05 Al_lighton 00461 JUL 05 Rkc00 00533 JUL 05 Csg_inc 00426 AUG 05 (**our first flaw in theory**) Rotorhead 01084 SEP 05 Froggy 02118 DEC 05 05mxdiesel 02578 JAN 06 Dick_stilton 01316 SEPT 05 (European Spec) | ||
| Jlnance |
It would be much harder to generate random numbers than to simply run them in series. I don't know if they run the VINs serially or not. One argument against doing so is that it makes it very easy for someone to just make up a VIN number. By doing a little math on a serial set of numbers, it would be easy to generate VINs which were neither random nor serial. This would be handy when getting a VIN over the phone for example, as you could tell if the person screwed up a digit, or was lying about it. An overly simplistic example, given a 5 digit VIN number, would be to run the first 4 digits sequentially, and make the last digit the remainder of the sum of the first 4 digits when divided by 9. | ||
| Ft_bstrd |
Usually, there is a VIN database supplied that the licensing folks use to verify VIN numbers at registration. You could make up a fake VIN, but if they run that VIN against that database, it'll come up bogus. You could just as easily create a bogus VIN with randomly generated VIN# as well. I don't see that it would help prevent it by using randomly generated VINs. Math or not.  | ||
| Jlnance |
It's the difference between an invalid VIN and someone elses VIN. Again, I have no idea how VIN numbers are assigned in the real world. |
