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Dnveloman
Posted on Wednesday, June 18, 2008 - 11:17 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I had the front tire changed on my Uly the other day... I replaced a worn sync with a new sync. I took the wheel off my self and brought it to a shop to change the tire....

I noticed they used a full 2 ounces of weights to balance the wheel. While it is smooth as silk up to... well, very fast... The amount of tire weights seems excessive.

Does this seem abnormal to anyone else?

Thanks.
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Froggy
Posted on Wednesday, June 18, 2008 - 11:23 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

It does sound high, but if it ain't broke....
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Chadhargis
Posted on Wednesday, June 18, 2008 - 12:54 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Heck, I put 3oz on a scooter wheel last week.

It's a little much, but that just means the tire is out of balance.

I do my own tire work, and when I demount the tire, I put the bare wheel on the balancer and find the ACTUAL heavy spot. It's not always the valve stem. It fact, it's hardly ever the valve stem.

Most people assume the valve is the heavy spot. This can cause you to need more weight to balance.
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Debueller
Posted on Wednesday, June 18, 2008 - 01:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Several times when balancing my tires, before I've seated the beads, I have spun the tire on the rim to find a position that uses the least amount or no weights.

Other times I've just aired up the tire and seated the beads and used several ounces of stick-on lead weights to balance the wheel/tire.

I can't tell a difference. Screwing around with turning the tire on the rim has been IMO a waste of time.......and sometimes it seems like I need to use an excessive amount of weight......dosen't seem to be a problem.
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Dnveloman
Posted on Wednesday, June 18, 2008 - 01:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Thanks for your comments guys... Sounds like I'm doing alot of worrying about nothing. I feel better anyway.

I'll stop worrying and concentrate on wearing out the new tire!
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Hughlysses
Posted on Wednesday, June 18, 2008 - 02:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I've seen discussions on this several places. Modern tires generally have a spot on the side that indicates the lightest point on the tire. Common wisdom is to align this with the valve stem on the wheel, which should be the heaviest point on the wheel, but this is often not true.

At least a couple of guys at Badweb (and I've seen this posted on other forums) check the wheel before they mount the tire, then find and mark the heavy spot, which is likely NOT the valve stem. THEN install the new tire with the mark aligned with this heavy spot. They claim they rarely have to add balance weights to the assembly when they use the approach. It makes sense to me.
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Dr_greg
Posted on Wednesday, June 18, 2008 - 02:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

For the last several years I've noticed the tires I mount (Azaros, Storms, Distanzias, Pilot Road 2CT) no longer have a "mark" on the tire indicating the heavy spot. They used to; wonder why no more?
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Electraglider_1997
Posted on Wednesday, June 18, 2008 - 07:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Dr_greg,
It's the light spot, not the heavy spot.
http://www.clarity.net/~adam/tire-changing-doc.htm l
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Firstbatch
Posted on Wednesday, June 18, 2008 - 08:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Just installed the Dyna Beads in these babbies..can't wait to get them back on the Uly and see how they work


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Xbimmer
Posted on Wednesday, June 18, 2008 - 10:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Awesome wheels Firstbatch, details?
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Firstbatch
Posted on Thursday, June 19, 2008 - 06:52 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Thanks XB.....had the Uly wheels powdered coated with a very dark black green metallic with the rim lips in a two part psycho-lime green. Then spooned on some new Corsa III's. Out in the sun it really pops!

All part of a major makeover on the Uly that is focused on removing all the champagne powder coated parts. Probably about a week a away from getting it all re-assembled. Like most projects it has taken to long and somehow other mods just got added in once I had it all torn down.
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Electraglider_1997
Posted on Thursday, June 19, 2008 - 09:51 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Purty. Will we be seeing the finished product at Homecoming??
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Buelldualsport
Posted on Thursday, June 19, 2008 - 09:57 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Ditto on Dyno Beads

Work well up to way toooooooooo fast

Ride Em
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Webethumpin
Posted on Thursday, June 19, 2008 - 07:30 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I have a NO-Mar tire changer,static balancer.Works great.Steve at No-Mar explained the balance theory.
Remove the tire,clean wheel,remove weights.Place wheel on balancer.Mark the heavy spot(bottom).If the tire has a dot line the dot to the mark you made.Inflate and check balance.
My experience,no weight to a max (so far on cast wheels)1 oz.

Later,Webe
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Firstbatch
Posted on Thursday, June 19, 2008 - 08:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Glide, I sure would like to make it to Homecoming......waiting for my painter to finish a couple of plastic parts and if I can sneak away from work then I'm ready to roll.
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Dnveloman
Posted on Wednesday, July 02, 2008 - 01:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I just wanted to give a follow-up to my tire weight worries... (Even though the tire was smooth, it had eight 7gm weights on it- totaling 56gms).
I read the manual and they say the MAX weights that should be used on this rim is 28gms (or 4 of the 7gm weights). I brought it back to the shop and asked if they could move the tire around a bit and re-balance... They re-worked it and got it down to 21gms.
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